Noah Anderson: How To Build A Personal Brand When You're Naturally An Introvert
Noah Anderson on posting through years of zero views, picturing one viewer instead of a crowd, and why his most vulnerable videos outperformed his most impressive ones.
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Big Idea
The argument in one line.
A self-described introvert built a YouTube career past a million followers not through extroversion or clever hooks, but by picturing one specific viewer while talking to the camera and posting consistently through years when almost nobody watched.
Who This Is For
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READ IF YOU ARE…
A creator convinced they need to be a natural extrovert or a gifted public speaker to succeed on camera.
Someone who has posted consistently for months or years with little traction and is deciding whether to quit.
A YouTuber weighing whether to chase short-form virality or commit to long-form storytelling.
Anyone considering documenting a personal challenge (a race, a habit change, a big goal) as their next piece of content.
SKIP IF…
You're looking for short-form growth tactics or algorithm hacks; this is a long-form, story-first philosophy, not a tactics list.
You want a beat-by-beat editing or production tutorial; the conversation stays at the mindset and strategy level.
TL;DR
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Noah Anderson turned down a corporate job after college to post YouTube videos nobody watched, kept a slow daily habit going through a backpacking trip and a marketing day job, and only broke through on his third attempt at an ice bath series once he leaned into vulnerable storytelling instead of a flashy hook. His core trick for staying natural on camera: picture one specific person, often an earlier version of himself, instead of an audience. He built his identity-defining pieces, including a self-produced Ironman documentary and an 18-million-view video about quitting vaping, around real events and struggles rather than a finish line, and only went full-time once a brand deal proved the income could scale past his salary.
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A montage of clips (corporate cubicle regret, the pitch to make an Ironman documentary, the vaping-story thesis) leads into a subscribe ask, then Jun welcomes Noah to the show.
02:03 – 03:42
02 · Proving yourself right
Noah traces his on-camera joy to his faith and to stacking undeniable proof that he is who he says he is, after growing up insecure about public speaking.
03:42 – 07:40
03 · Turning down the corporate path
Noah describes leaving a summer internship writing Excel and code, a backpacking trip through Europe, and a slow, unannounced pivot into posting daily on his personal Instagram instead of a separate anonymous account.
07:40 – 09:19
04 · Posting when nobody watched
Noah admits there were long stretches of posting consistently with zero traction and moments he nearly gave up, but kept going by imagining an earlier version of himself as the intended viewer.
09:19 – 10:55
05 · His self-produced documentary
An hour-long, self-produced Ironman documentary he was proud of independent of view count; the idea came from a videographer he'd hired for short-form clips who suggested filming the whole journey instead.
10:55 – 15:38
06 · Three tries at the ice bath series & how his strategy changed
Noah ran the ice bath format three separate times before it broke out; the winning version was a raw 2.5-3 minute monologue leaning on vulnerable storytelling, including a video about quitting nicotine vaping that hit 18 million views, rather than a flashy hook.
15:38 – 17:10
07 · Talk to one person, not an audience
His technique for staying natural on camera: picture one specific person, often his younger self, rather than a mass audience, which reduced the anxiety of videos suddenly getting millions of views.
17:10 – 21:10
08 · Where his video ideas come from
Ideas come from personal struggles, mostly fitness-related, and from building content around a specific upcoming event like a marathon or Ironman rather than waiting to post about the finish line.
21:10 – 23:58
09 · The stranger who believed in him
A videographer he met at a coffee shop and hired for short-form clips pitched the documentary idea, worked unpaid for eight months, and was later hired full-time to Noah's team.
23:58 – 29:12
10 · Content as self-improvement
Noah frames content creation as a self-reflective, almost therapeutic process, and describes his own ordinary backstory, a white kid from the suburbs, as proof a story doesn't need to be extreme to be worth telling.
29:12 – 31:32
11 · Full-time job, training & YouTube at once
Before going full-time, Noah stacked a day job, Ironman training, and YouTube into every waking hour; the actual green light to quit was landing a brand deal that proved the income could scale past his salary.
31:32 – 35:58
12 · Why YouTube and long-form is the priority
Short-form builds face and name recognition and can funnel into long-form, but Noah treats YouTube as the platform for deeper storytelling and better pay; the recurring mandarins Shorts bit is traced back to his sisters' offhand comments.
35:58 – 38:41
13 · What's next (& how he decides)
Noah is weighing whether qualifying for the Ironman world championships is a genuine goal or just the safe, proven format, against other ambitions like a Pacific Crest Trail hike and a 10-mile Hawaiian island swim.
38:41 – 41:21
14 · What he'd tell 12-year-old Noah
Closing reflection: take the journey less seriously than the end result, and remember that consistency over a long period of time is what actually pays off.
Atomic Insights
Lines worth screenshotting.
Posting consistently while getting zero views for over a year was what eventually made a strategy shift work, not a lucky discovery.
An ice bath video that's just two and a half minutes of someone talking while sitting in cold water shouldn't work by traditional social media logic, but it became a creator's biggest breakout because of the story inside it.
A video about quitting nicotine vaping after four years of addiction reached 18 million views on Instagram, more than any workout or achievement content the same creator posted.
Picturing one specific person, often an earlier version of yourself, while talking to a camera removes the anxiety of imagining a mass audience.
Building content around a specific event in progress, like a race or a challenge, beats waiting to post about the finish line, because the journey before the result is what people connect to.
A short-form video that intentionally withholds a payoff and tells viewers to go watch the full story on YouTube converts recognition into long-form viewership better than a single viral clip does.
The real signal to go full-time as a creator wasn't the view count, it was a brand deal proving the income could out-earn a salaried job.
An offhand comment about eating six mandarins in a day, which only got five or six likes, became the seed for a recurring format after the creator noticed even small engagement was a signal worth leaning into.
A documentary deliberately minimized race-day footage and spent most of its runtime on the uncertain training buildup, because the struggle before the achievement is the more relatable story.
Long-form YouTube pays more and builds deeper audience connection than short-form, even though short-form recognition of a creator's face and name increases the odds someone later clicks their long-form thumbnail.
A creator described his own real backstory as nothing that crazy, a white kid from the suburbs, and treated that ordinariness as proof that story-worthiness isn't about having survived something extreme.
Takeaway
Consistency and one imagined viewer beat hooks and audience size.
WHAT TO LEARN
A self-described introvert built a YouTube career past a million followers by narrowing every video down to one imagined viewer, treating long stretches of zero views as normal, and finding his highest-performing videos in vulnerable personal struggle rather than achievement or hooks.
02Proving yourself right
Confidence built through stacking undeniable proof, repeated reps of the exact skill you doubt in yourself, grows in a way pep talks alone can't replace.
A creator publicly uncomfortable with public speaking became visibly comfortable through years of forced repetition of talking to a camera, not through a single mindset shift.
03Turning down the corporate path
Choosing a path because it's what other people expect, rather than what you actually want, is a common enough trap that naming it out loud is worth doing before committing years to a career.
Testing an anonymous or separate account first is a common instinct when starting to post, but ultimately posting under your real identity is what builds a personal brand at all.
A slow, unannounced pivot, posting consistently while still working other jobs, is a realistic way to test a creative path without a dramatic all-or-nothing leap.
04Posting when nobody watched
Long stretches with zero traction are the default, not the exception, for creators who eventually break through.
Picturing a specific past version of yourself as the intended viewer is a concrete way to keep making content when no one else is watching yet.
05His self-produced documentary
A satisfying piece of content and a high-performing piece of content are not the same thing, and detaching from view count on your proudest work makes it easier to keep making things you believe in.
The best creative ideas sometimes come from someone else on your team seeing a bigger opportunity in what you're already doing, like a short-form clip shoot turning into a full documentary.
06Three tries at the ice bath series & how his strategy changed
The same content format can fail twice and succeed the third time once the execution changes; format alone doesn't guarantee results, storytelling and consistency behind it do.
A 2.5 to 3 minute static monologue outperformed content that should have lost to more engaging competing formats, because the vulnerability of the story carried it.
The single highest-performing piece of content in this creator's catalog, 18 million views, was built entirely around a personal struggle rather than a physical achievement.
07Talk to one person, not an audience
Mentally narrowing a video's audience down to one specific person reduces on-camera anxiety more effectively than trying to perform for an abstract everyone.
Awareness that a video might reach millions can itself become a distraction; deliberately shrinking the imagined audience back down is a repeatable coping technique.
08Where his video ideas come from
Two reliable idea sources beat chasing trends: your own ongoing personal struggles, and a specific real-world event you can document the buildup to.
Documenting the days and weeks leading into a challenge is often more relatable than the finished result, because the uncertainty and effort are what viewers can see themselves in.
09The stranger who believed in him
Long-term collaborators are sometimes found through small, informal first asks, like hiring someone for a single shoot, rather than big formal searches.
An unpaid, informal trial period, eight months in this case, can be how a real team hire eventually gets proven out and made permanent.
10Content as self-improvement
Explaining an experience to an audience forces a level of reflection that just living through the experience doesn't require.
An ordinary backstory isn't a disqualifier from having something worth sharing; specificity and honesty about real struggle matter more than the struggle's severity.
11Full-time job, training & YouTube at once
Stacking a day job, serious training, and content creation into every waking hour is not sustainable indefinitely, but can be a deliberate, time-boxed bridge toward going full-time.
The real signal to quit a job for content wasn't rising view counts, it was a single brand deal proving the income could scale past a salary.
A structured challenge format, a fixed number of days with a defined daily task, removes the daily decision of what to post, which matters when juggling multiple full-time commitments.
12Why YouTube and long-form is the priority
Short-form content mainly builds face and name recognition; it rarely converts a scrolling viewer directly into a long-form watch, but it raises the odds someone clicks a familiar face's thumbnail later.
Intentionally withholding a payoff in a short-form clip and pointing to the full story elsewhere is a specific technique for using short-form as a funnel into long-form.
A recurring bit can start from a single offhand comment that got only a handful of likes; treating small engagement signals as worth testing is how minor bits become recognizable formats.
13What's next (& how he decides)
It's worth periodically questioning whether you're continuing a format because you're genuinely excited about it or because you know it's already proven to work.
Being explicit about future goals, even ones with no set timeline, keeps a creator's direction intentional rather than purely reactive to what performed well last.
14What he'd tell 12-year-old Noah
Over-focusing on the end result at the expense of the process is a recognizable trap even for people who've had real success.
Consistency sustained over a long period is the unglamorous mechanism behind results that look, from the outside, like a lucky break.
Glossary
Terms worth knowing.
75 Hard
A structured 75-day personal discipline challenge with daily rules such as workouts and reading, which Noah used to give an early content series a built-in schedule and a daily video hook.
Brand deal
A paid sponsorship where a company pays a creator to feature or promote its product, distinct from ad-revenue income like YouTube AdSense.
AdSense
YouTube's built-in advertising revenue program that pays creators based on ad views on their videos, generally a smaller and slower income source than a brand deal.
11:40productNoah's nicotine-vaping story video (18M views on Instagram)
Quotables
Lines you could clip.
11:05
“The content is two minutes and 30 seconds to three minute monologue of me just talking.”
counterintuitive claim that a low-production format outperformed flashier content→ TikTok hook↗ Tweet quote
23:58
“I'm a white kid from the suburbs... there's nothing that's really that crazy about my story.”
disarming honesty that reframes who is allowed to make content→ IG reel cold open↗ Tweet quote
16:00
“A big thing that was useful for me was pretending that I'm talking to a specific person... an older version of me.”
concrete, repeatable on-camera technique stated as a single clean line→ IG reel cold open↗ Tweet quote
30:10
“It was securing the first major brand deal... actual financial proof of concept now.”
names the real financial threshold behind a quit-your-job decision→ newsletter pull-quote↗ Tweet quote
40:40
“You can genuinely do anything that you want to do as long as you can be consistent with it and show up for it for a long period of time.”
clean closing thesis that works as a standalone motivational clip→ TikTok hook↗ Tweet quote
Topic Map
Where the conversation goes.
02:03 – 03:42steadyJoy, faith, and self-belief behind the work
03:42 – 07:40denseLeaving the corporate path
07:40 – 10:55steadyThe zero-audience years and the documentary
10:55 – 15:38denseThe ice bath series and what changed on attempt three
15:38 – 21:10denseThe one-viewer technique and idea generation
21:10 – 23:58steadyTeam building and the documentary's origin story
23:58 – 29:12steadyContent as self-improvement and story-worthiness
29:12 – 31:32denseBalancing a job, training, and content, and the go-full-time decision
31:32 – 35:58densePlatform strategy: short-form vs. long-form, and the mandarins bit
35:58 – 41:21steadyWhat's next and closing reflections
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I was doing a corporate internship where I would be in office like twice a week. I was just in a cubicle staring at Microsoft Excel and writing code. I knew that I wanted to do something that brought me more excitement and had more of an impact.
I was like, okay, I'm just going to start making YouTube videos with my fancy college degree, I guess. Today I sat down with Noah Anderson, the creator who turned ice baths, self -improvement, and a relentless obsession with doing hard things into an audience of over 1 .4 million followers. Met this guy and he was kind of just like, you know, I think...
You should make a movie about it because you're only going to do an Iron Man for the first time once. I felt that I was really making videos that a version of Noah four years ago could really attach to and figure out a lot of things about his own life. What were you focusing upon to allow you to show up even when the numbers weren't necessarily there?
Part of it was the vulnerability and storytelling. I'm done worrying about what others think of me. And to prove it, I'm shaving my head.
And then the other aspect was just having a lot more consistency behind me with talking to a camera. What was the green light for you to say, okay, it is now time to pursue content creation full -time? I think it was...
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Noah, first and foremost, thank you so much for joining us here at Creator Unplugged. Thanks for having me, man. I'm excited.
I have so much that I want to break down with you. There is literally so much that I personally admire and love about you, your discipline, your resilience, your hard work. But I love your smile, man.
I love how joyful you are. And I know I told you this earlier, but when I watch your content and watch your full documentary, I come out of it feeling happier, feeling joyful. Now, what's fascinating is that.
You're making me feel this way while doing some of the hardest human experiences. You're doing Ironman prep. You're doing these crazy challenges.
And so my first question for you, I know it's not always easy, but where does this joy come from? Yeah, I think for me, a lot of it comes from my relationship with Christ, but also just like finding joy in the things that I'm excited about. And like also being in a position now where I get to commit so much time to the things that.
like bring me joy uh also just brings me more joy too because it's like i don't know being a youtuber being a creative is such a cool career opportunity and to be able to spend so much time doing things that get me excited i think bring me a lot of joy in general i've heard you say across several of your videos, this idea of stacking undeniable proof that we are exactly who we say that we are.
I remember when I first heard that sentiment from Alex Ramosi, and it really rung true for me because I actually grew up quite insecure. And I didn't want to public speak. I felt as though I was a terrible communicator.
And I was always worried that these talents were just never something I could attain. But it was after relentless work, after a ton of reps where I've learned those skills and now I feel more confident. It's cool because I watched your journey and whenever you talk, it's like the achievement itself is cool, but you're thinking about it completely bigger.
You're like the person that I'm becoming as a resultant of this hard work. That is why I'm doing this stuff. And I'm curious, is that what drives you to do these incredibly difficult things?
Yeah, I think just like finding. myself along the way has it's kind of cliche for sure but like along the process of doing something really challenging along the process of going from zero subscribers on my YouTube channel to where I'm at now and just like building that slow confidence along the way where I was so nervous to be like talking in front of a camera a couple years ago and now I feel a lot more confident doing that I was really not a great endurance athlete a couple years ago now I feel that I'm figuring that out along the way and it's just like as I continue to show up for myself in all of those different places in my life like being able to see the end result of like getting better at that thing is cool for sure the achievement is cool but I think the confidence that I build in myself along the way and like the documentary being the title being proving myself right has just been such a common theme for me in the past couple years and I think I found that
both through the fitness and the journeys within the videos that I'm making, but also the experience of building my platform on social media in general too, where it's just like, it's a long grind. And there's a lot of days where like, there's a lot of people around you that don't necessarily feel that it's a smart move or maybe they don't say that directly, but there is always a little bit of condescending tones around it, I think in general.
But it's always been something that I've, been excited about doing and I just didn't do it for such a long time. And then finally I got to the point where I was just like, this is what I want to do.
I'm going to try it. And if I fail, I'll fail very publicly, but I'm okay with that. So I don't know.
Take me back to 2023. So when you had graduated and you're looking at this traditional career in front of you, I know that you actually had this Excel job as you detail it, literally lined up and you've worked your tail off to even put yourself in that situation. But there was a misalignment, as in you have this in front of you.
You feel as though these years that maybe coming out of college, you would work the traditional job. You make your way through it. But there was something inside of you internally that felt a little bit disconnected to that career path.
Take me back to what you were feeling and ultimately what made you choose that next step in your career. Yeah, I think it was the summer between my junior and senior year of college where I was doing a corporate internship where. I would be in office like twice a week, but every time I was there, I was just in a cubicle staring at Microsoft Excel and writing code.
And for me, I just really wasn't excited about it. I think a lot of the reason I had gone down that path was just because I feel that that's what other people had expected of me, which ultimately is not a very good way to think about it. But I got to that position, like having just graduated and just feeling very misaligned.
Like I knew that I wanted to do something that brought me more excitement and had more of an impact. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to start making YouTube videos with my fancy college degree, I guess, and not pursue this job. And then I had always planned on doing a backpacking trip in Europe after I graduated.
So I did that from like February to like May -ish of 2024 and just had such a fun time. moving around and doing random stuff and uh i think that kind of brought a little bit more of like excitement back into my life too and i was making youtube videos the whole time nobody was watching them to be fair but um it was finally a moment where like i was putting in consistency towards making videos and i didn't care quite as much about how other people might perceive me trying to make videos and i think like it wasn't like i was never okay this is the moment where I'm going to completely change everything.
It was kind of a slow iterative process of, okay, I'm slightly confident that I can post long form YouTube videos because it feels like maybe there's not a lot of people like that I know in real life that will actually see them. But eventually somewhere along the way, I was like, okay, and I'm just going to start posting on my personal Instagram account.
So at first I was like, maybe I make a different Instagram account so that people like won't see it. as much but i'm like well if this is what i want to do ultimately like i should just post on my instagram account so i don't know i just started doing that and then one thing led into another and found a job that was a lot more um like i did a like social media marketing type role for a pretzel drink brand and that was another moment where i was like okay this feels more attainable to be able to do something creative that I get excited about.
And eventually it got to the point where YouTube got big enough and I was like, okay, now I just get to do this full time, I guess, which is so crazy and exciting and cool. So yeah. When I say that, I love you.
I really do mean it. I had scrolled down all the way to your YouTube old videos and I saw 12 years ago. top 10 backyard football catches.
And then I saw another video and I saw satirical Sundays. I'm like, he's doing this with his friend at a very young age. And the reason why I want to bring that up is because a lot of creatives that I have met, whether they're big or whether they're small, a lot of it has to do with this fear of visibility that stops them from showing up online.
This idea that people, their peers, their friends and family are going to judge them. You had mentioned that there was an element of that inside of you where you're thinking about, do I start it on a different account? Do I make sure that other people can't watch this?
Were there moments in time where people did doubt you or let's say that you doubted yourself as you were visible online that made you want to quit? Or are you always strong enough mentally to be like, I'm good and I'm going to pursue this and I can make sure that I focus on the inputs? There are definitely moments where it felt a lot less attainable and felt like I wanted to kind of just give in, especially for a long period of time where it was like posting very consistently and not seeing any sort of results from that.
But I think ultimately when I started really going for it again, like after I had graduated and I felt that I was really making videos that a version of Noah four years ago could really attach to and like figure out a lot of things about his own life from watching that. And that's kind of always been my thought process. Like whenever I'm making videos, I'm talking to an older version of me that hasn't figured out a lot of the things that I figured out at this point.
I don't know. I think that was sort of a motivating thing where it was like, I don't really care too much how it, what the actual result of it is because I really feel like I'm doing it for the love of the game, I guess. You know what I mean?
Where it's like, when you really enjoy the process of like, I'm really proud of this piece of content. Like when I put out the documentary, it was a moment where I didn't really care too much if it got a ton of views or not because it was like. I'm so proud of this hour -long video.
You know what I mean? I think there's a certain level of just being excited about the actual thing you're putting out that makes it a little bit easier to kind of detach from the results a little bit. What about the content creation process makes you proud?
So when you watch that documentary, what part of it made you think, this is a piece that I'm so happy is going out into the world? I think the storytelling of it and just the vulnerability of this is my story. And like, I think a lot of content can sometimes, especially within like the fitness space, can kind of come across as unattainable.
And my hope is that that video is very like, hey, I have no idea like how this is going to turn out. I'm six weeks out from this thing right now. I've never ran a marathon before.
I don't know. I'm not super confident in myself right now. As I kept showing up on those training days, like building that confidence, I think being able to tell that story in my own way, I think is what like I'm really proud of with that documentary.
If your goal was to make it attainable, you've done a good job because I felt like I could do an Ironman immediately coming out of that. And I have no business trying to do an Ironman right now. What's really phenomenal about what you had mentioned before is this.
The fact that you were actually posting even when the results weren't necessarily there, right? So when someone looks at your content now, they're like, of course, Noah's going to blow up. Of course, Noah's going to have all these different successes because they see it now.
Now, one of the first videos I've ever seen from you was the... classic ice bath. It was the 75 hard.
We're doing these daily ice baths. And I'd gone back to watch those contents again. What's fascinating is that as I was scrolling down, you were doing those ice bath videos, even when it wasn't necessarily going viral at the time.
Yeah. I want you to talk to me about that. What were you focusing upon to allow you to show up even when the numbers weren't necessarily there?
Yeah. So I actually did the ice bath series. three times basically now.
So the first time was long form YouTube. And like the first part of the video would be that and then it would be my workout. And then the second time was kind of similar to what I did for the 75 hard.
And then the third time was really when it took off was that that was kind of my biggest moment as a creator, probably, especially on Instagram. But I think in general, it was just like, how can I say something that is valuable? And how can I show up in a consistent daily basis?
I think was really important because yeah, like the hook isn't like the craziest thing. And the video is literally me just sitting in the ice bath for three minutes. Like essentially the content is two minutes and 30 seconds to three minute monologue of me just talking.
And there's, I mean, from a traditional like social media standpoint, it feels like it probably shouldn't work as well as it did just because there's so much other engaging content to look at. But I think for me, it was just like, okay, how can I share a story? from my perspective, it's really unique to me that can be useful to other people.
And I think as I continued to show up every day for it, that people were like, kind of like almost opening Instagram and being like, okay, I want to see Noah's ice bath today. And then like seeing that, and then it's that daily reminder that, I don't know, like that you exist as a creator to a certain degree. But also, yeah, I think just leading with this is, my story and yeah like the videos that did the best were always the videos where it was just a very like raw vulnerable experience that I shared like I was addicted to vaping nicotine for four years and it's like that video did like 18 million views on Instagram which is so ridiculous but I think people just connect to oh like this dude is kind of jacked now and he is getting in an ice bath right but then he's like oh yeah but I had this issue that I've been struggling with and this is how I overcame it.
I think that sort of like focusing on this is the value that can be derived from the video, I guess. That's amazing. And you had mentioned you had done it three different times.
By the way. Kudos to you because most people can't even get past three posts. They'll do three posts and they'll say, ah, it's not for me because it's not working.
But you have three separate series and to give it your very best shot in each of them, I know you in the sense of you don't half effort anything, obviously. So you're the type of individual that's like, I want to figure this out. I want to get my message out.
What do you think actually changed on that third iteration? Was it that you were being more vulnerable and you're more focused on storytelling? Tell me in terms of the content, what had shifted for that third iteration?
For sure. I think part of it was the vulnerability and storytelling. And then the other aspect element to it was just having a lot more consistency behind me with talking to a camera.
And if I go back and look at the first time I did it, it's so tough to watch because it feels very slow. And I don't feel as connected to me watching myself in those videos. And I think a big part of that is just...
showing up for a long period of time and getting better at talking to a camera because I mean it's a weird experience right like I'm sitting out there and I'm just looking at a camera and it it's hard to feel like connected to someone when like you're not actually there in general and it just obviously you know that it is a weird process like starting to talk to a camera and getting better at it over time but um yeah I think a big piece of it too is just that I was already a little bit bigger at the time.
I had already spent so much time talking to a camera and getting better at that. So I think just the two years of consistency behind me was probably a big reason that it was more successful the third time around. Yeah.
I always say that I am an ambivert, but I lean towards being an introvert a lot of times. And people look at me creating content, they think, oh, he must be extroverted. But when you look at the actual process, it's me in my bedroom alone.
It's me with the camera. I'm just talking directly to it. And it is a very awkward experience to be able to talk in a way that feels connected.
and natural, but you're actually not talking to anybody. It is this entire journey you have to go through. And for those that are listening into this right now that look at your journey and think, oh my gosh, he's a fantastic speaker.
Again, they only look at your circumstances today. What can you say to motivate or inspire or teach them as their first step to actually putting themselves out there so that they can even get the reps in the first place? Yeah.
I would say a big thing that was useful for me was pretending that I'm talking to a specific person. Or an older version of me that needs to hear that I can quit vaping, right? So I think like in general, trying to say, okay, I'm talking to this very specific friend for this video.
And I found that it's a lot easier and it feels more natural and authentic to me rather than... like trying to talk to a huge audience. And I think that was kind of a nervous thing too, as I was getting like into the ice bath series and realizing that every week there would be videos that would do millions of views.
And it's like, Oh gosh, there's a lot of people potentially watching this. So I think like recentering and saying, okay, I'm just going to talk to one person today. And that kind of has helped me be less like feel more natural to, um, like the way that I speak, I think.
Your content is so thoughtful in many different ways. As in there are videos where you're doing literal essays, as in it is this well thought out experience that people go through and you call it storytelling. I think of it as like a true immersive experience that you're taking me through.
You do a phenomenal job of that. And my question to you is, where do these ideas even come from? When you're thinking about the next video, the next series, you think about the YouTube video, how are you imagining the content ideas?
A big part of it for me has just been personal struggles of this is what I struggle with and especially a lot of it is around fitness. So like this has been a useful tool for me for getting through this thing or like this is what I struggled with. So this is the framework and strategies that I've used to approach it.
That's been a big sort of like way to think about. how I'm going to make content and what I'm going to make content about. But the other big thing has just been like building it around a specific event.
So whether that be a marathon or an Ironman or some triathlon or whatever it is like, okay, I'm 20 days out from this. Here's everything I did today to get prepared for it. Or here's how I'm approaching this challenge and what I'm doing in this day for it.
Because I think that, that. is almost more interesting to a certain degree than like the actual race day video of, okay, I did the race. This is how it went.
Like, I feel that people can get connected to the, hey, I'm 27 days out from this race. Here's all my training today. And I think like that's almost more important because ultimately the journey is what makes the fitness, like the final moment of like crossing the Ironman finish line.
It's not just in that moment. Like there's so much that went in before that. So just building it around specific events, I think makes the story a little bit easier to come up with and the content ideas.
And then just talking to things that I've struggled with and how to approach it. The reason why I watch your documentary twice, by the way, thank you for those last night. Yeah.
The reason why I watched it twice and you actually just brought it up. I see this video and I think going into it that it's going to be just the competition, just the race day. But you actually had the race as a very small segment of the entire documentary.
And I thought that was brilliant because most people will just think about the singular events alone. But your storytelling leading up to that, the ability for you to showcase the struggle, the uncertainty. And of course, you're still doing it with a smile.
But this idea of you taking me through that experience was such a wonderful storytelling. It just, just the way that you were doing it. And I'm curious, was that intentional?
So you are thinking in your brain of, I know the journey is more important. I want to focus there. Yeah, for sure.
Um, we had a ton of race day footage that I would have loved to use more too, but I think again, there's a certain level of like, I never want the content to come across as like, this is how amazing I am for finishing this thing. I want it more so to talk to this is. the experience that I've had with it.
And I think that because of that, we definitely trimmed down a good amount of like the actual race day stuff, even though like it was so, some of the footage was so amazing. And I had three people come out and shoot it. And it was, it was just a really cool, cool side story on the documentaries.
I had initially wasn't planning on doing a documentary. I met this guy like basically a year ago at a coffee shop and I wanted to hire him to shoot short form videos for. the full distance Ironman.
And he was kind of just like, you know, I think you should make a movie about it because you're only going to do an Ironman for the first time once. Like, I think we should do a documentary. I was like, okay, like, yeah, let's try it.
And basically for eight months, he was shooting for me all the time. He was essentially my unpaid intern. And it was always like the idea that eventually I would be able to hire him on full time.
So like three or four months ago, I actually hired him on to my team full time. So that was a cool. full story moment of someone that just believed in me so much and believed in what I was like trying to put out into the world.
And I don't know, being able to have him on my team now is so cool. So yeah. What's his name?
Let's do a quick shout out. His name's John, John Sandberg. John Sandberg.
That's a big shout out to you. The first believer. I love it.
Yeah. This conversation that I want to bring up, and you've actually mentioned the word vulnerable quite a few times already in this conversation. And I think that's your superpower as a creator.
It's one that I believe I share as well. Our human common denominator across all of us is struggle. It's not the successes.
It's not the fancy washes or the fancy vacations or lavish lifestyles. It's not that. It is the hardship.
It is the fact that all of us have experienced something to a certain extent. I always try to get people to own their story, own their experiences, own even the weakest moments. And to the level in which they share it is entirely up to them.
But they have to own it first in order for them to even think about content ideas that can, again, build that depth of connection with their audience. But there are so many people out there that think that their story is not worth telling. There's so many people out there that are like, oh, what do I have to share?
I'm just a college student or I work a nine to five. There's nothing interesting about me. Tell me what you would.
share with those particular people that might be doubting whether or not they actually have a story to share. Yeah. I would say that my story is certainly like, there's nothing that's really that crazy about my story.
Like I was a college student and I was someone who was just a little unsatisfied with where I was at in life and started creating content around the same time where I started making a lot of different lifestyle changes and documenting that experience. By no means is that like a crazy transformative, like I wasn't addicted to hardcore drugs or I wasn't like, I don't feel that I have a crazy story.
I'm a white kid from the suburbs. Like there's just, I think that being able to, like you said, like actually grapple with the things that you struggle with and then being real and vulnerable about sharing those. I think that will ultimately.
have like people can get connected with that especially like the authenticity of it and Like this is my story, right? It's like I'm not manufacturing anything I'm not trying to make it something that it's not it's just like this is what I went through and this is what I've experienced. So Yeah There's something about creating content that for me feels therapeutic It feels as though it's a self -improvement journey on its own.
Now you're a fan of doing hard things obviously And you put your body through a lot of demanding activities. But I do believe that content challenges us in different ways.
It forces us to grapple with different experiences. From the last two, three years that you've been taking content creation seriously, in that, how has content creation changed you personally? I think it's made me a lot more self -reflective and like thinking through.
some things that maybe I wouldn't have thought through otherwise. And like, I think there's a big piece of being able to like talk through an experience and sort of teach someone else what I went through is like kind of that final learning process step, I would say. So I think for me, content creation has been a big like self -improvement thing that I've gone through just because you have to really like, You have to go through the experience and then you have to figure out what that experience actually meant.
And then to share that experience is kind of that final step of learning and growth for sure, too. So, yeah. I'm the exact same way as in when I think about my experiences, when I'm forced to reflect upon it.
I actually discover elements of me that I didn't know about before. And as you tell more of these stories, you recognize, oh my goodness, there is a real character development. There was a person behind the scenes of all these actions and to share and display that to the world.
It's a fascinating experience. And I want to ask you, as you've now had this trajectory of success and it's so well -deserved, how are you handling it? meeting like this story of yours that's been intimate for you for such a long period of time now other people are hearing it and they're feeling as though they can champion your experience how does that personally feel for you it's a little weird it's very exciting to many degrees because it's been a dream of mine for so long but to like have someone come up to me and be like hey the video where you were talking about quitting vaping like literally inspired me to quit vaping it's like that's a really cool like actual, like, wow, that actually changed your life in a certain way has been really cool to see.
But it's also just, it still feels crazy that I'm able to just make videos for my job. So it's another thing where I'm just like, I need to lock in more. That's something I struggle with too in general is like doing too much all the time.
I'm sure you struggle with that too. It seems like a lot of creators. struggle with that um especially now that i've added someone onto my team it's like i need to really lock it i don't know but um yeah it it's been it's been really cool and mostly like 99 .9 of the time like very positive like people are like reaching out and being very positive about what i've been doing so um yeah it's been cool it's been exciting it's fun to see this dream that i've had for so long like start to happen in front of my eyes it's It's really cool.
And I want to say congratulations. I mean, I know in 2025 where you made the decision now to go full time with content and that's a huge leap. And you've obviously worked your tail off to make this happen.
I'm actually very curious. What was the green light for you to say, OK, it is now time to pursue content creation full time? I think it was securing like the first major brand deal where I had the realization of, OK, I'm making this much money with my full time job.
And this much money, which is my dream job. And it's a lot more. So I think it was kind of that like, okay, there's actual financial proof of concept now rather than like before it was kind of just YouTube AdSense, which at the time wasn't a lot of money.
And like having a brand dealing, having the realization that that could scale to a lot faster than working for someone else full time and getting a salary. It was kind of like that shared sort of, A, I like doing this more. I have way more joy and satisfaction in my life when I'm spending more time making videos.
And yeah, the financial sort of piece of it was there. So I was like, okay, let's just, let's see what happens. And that was kind of the start of the 75 hard ice bath thing.
Because I knew I needed to have something that had structure to it rather than. just being like, okay, I'll quit and see what happens. I'm always someone that's been very tight day, like conscientious and just like, I need to have all these things in place, which is kind of hard to sometimes as a content creator where you can literally do anything.
But I like to have at least a couple of months of, okay, this is what I'm going to do for the next 75 days. And that was super useful for me to just wake up every day. I know I have a video for that day.
I just need to come up with something useful to say. So, yeah. He definitely striked me as someone that has a calendar.
And I'm excited to get to this because you had a job, you were training in ridiculous types of training. In addition to the fact that you were creating content, there's got to be some form of system behind the scenes to help you manage your time. And I want you to talk to me about that.
So when you were balancing the job and you're doing all this, what was your time management strategies like? And then ultimately, now that you are a full -time creator, you still need that structure behind you in order for you to actually optimize upon your potential. Talk to me about the time management behind the scenes.
Yeah. Um, I think the biggest part of it is just like trying to do as much as possible. It seems weird, but like just optimizing as much time as I possibly can.
Um, like, okay, I have an hour and a half before work after I wake up, that's going to be my swim. And then maybe I have 10 minutes to like start thinking about this other video concept. And I think kind of just like planning within my day, okay, for my hour commute to work, I'm going to think about this video or I'm going to listen to this podcast or like I had a lot more time within a day that I wasn't really fully capitalizing on.
And that can be a slippery slope to doing way too much. But at the same time, it was kind of just like, okay, I got an hour and a half chunk here to train.
I got an hour chunk here after work to train. And then I'm going to work on YouTube until I go to bed. And then I'm going to repeat the next day.
To a certain degree, that wasn't going to be sustainable for a very long -term period of time. But in my head, I was getting closer and closer to that point of being able to take the leap to go full -time. So I was like, yeah, I can do this for seven, eight months.
It was basically like full -time YouTube, full -time work and full -time training. But I don't know, I got through it. So I think a big piece of it is just being excited about what I was doing too.
Like there's no way I could, like there's a quote somewhere, I forget who it's by, but something along the lines of like when you are pursuing the thing that is so authentic to you and that you are so excited about that nobody can really compete with that because like it's you. Yeah, that authenticity in your content is so evident.
And you've done a great job, whether it was intentionally curated or not. I can just see you, Noah, within your content. And that's a huge compliment.
I think it's the biggest compliment that you can give any creator. I want to ask you of how you're seeing YouTube in your own ecosystem. As you have a platform on Instagram, you have a platform on TikTok, you have this YouTube platform as well.
You are prioritizing YouTube, and I just want to hear how you're thinking about now this ecosystem that you're building, especially as your full -time creator. You're going to have to optimize upon that. Why YouTube?
And ultimately, how do you imagine the other platforms playing a role? In general, I feel that all short form should push to YouTube. But the thing I found is that a single video is not really going to do that.
As I've had... like more viral short form pieces of content that specifically are like, okay, go watch this long form YouTube video that there are like strategies that you can use to do that. Like I did a video where I was comparing bikes at different price ranges.
And one of the segments of that video, I posted as a short form video, said, okay, if you want to go see the final time for the fastest bike, go watch the video. And then ultimately people would just comment or like people would be like, ah, you didn't post the results. I hate you, whatever.
But like there's a really good long form video to go watch. So I think it's weird because it's like it's hard to like when someone is like scrolling short form social media, I think you're not very likely to actually go watch a long form YouTube video. So I think a big piece of short form is just like recognition of like my personal brand, my face, my name.
And then that if someone's on YouTube later on and they see a thumbnail that I'm in. then that increases the likelihood of clicking on that thumbnail and watching the YouTube video. But in general, I would say that YouTube is where I want to, I want people to see me and be like, you're one of my favorite YouTubers, right?
Like I, I want to be known as a YouTuber. I want to be a long form creator. I think a big piece of it is just that you're able to tell a deeper story and a more meaningful story and that you can connect with your audience in a more meaningful way on YouTube.
you make more money on YouTube too. So I think there's like a lot of win -win -win elements to YouTube. So I want to ask you this personally.
Talk to me about the mandarins. Talking about content that's meant for a direct. Where did this come from?
So I had posted like, I think it was a while ago, but it was day in the life of eating YouTube short, like as an Ironman triathlete. And I just had happened to eat. six mandarins throughout the day or something like that.
Like it was kind of like probably a lot of mandarins. And I got a couple of comments about it. It was actually like my two sisters who made the comments because at the time I just really there wasn't much traction, but they're both like, wow, that's a lot of mandarins, whatever.
And those comments had gotten like five or six likes, which for me, if a comment got that many likes on a video, I was like, wow, that's that means something. So I leaned into it a little bit more. And then I did a video where I said the over under for today is.
I think it was 14 mandarins. And then throughout the day, I ended up eating 15, I think, to get the over. And that was the first YouTube short that just like went crazy.
So naturally, I kind of went down that rabbit hole a good amount. Hopefully, I haven't overplayed it, but definitely have leaned into it just because, yeah, it's just super silly. And like, yeah, I don't know.
Probably like, I wouldn't say I've ruined eating mandarins for myself, but to a certain degree, like I'll do a day where I'll eat 30 of them or something. And it's like the next four days, I'm not eating a mandarin. It's just too much.
When I was watching your content, I just started seeing you juggle mandarins while you were running and while you're walking through the video. I'm like, what's going on? And I kept watching your videos and there's more of that.
Cuties needs to sponsor you because obviously you're bringing them a lot of attention. 100%. I have not figured out a Mandarin sponsorship yet.
That's the one thing we're missing. Got to figure that out. This brings me to this next step question, right?
As in, where are you taking all of this? When I say that I notice Noah in the content, and the reason why I say it's the biggest compliment ever is because you're not just one thing. And I think a lot of times creators who don't have longevity...
just do one thing over and over and over and over and over again. And they can't branch out of that. And then over time, obviously, you as a human being will grow.
You will evolve with different interests, but no one will engage with that. But it's cool because as I see you do Ironman training, but you're also talking about mindset, philosophy. You're talking about all these different things.
And it actually makes me understand, no, but because of that, you've laid such a strong foundation for yourself and you have all these different opportunities in front of you. Where do you want to take all of this that you have built? I don't really know.
That's kind of something that I'm trying to figure out next. I think to a certain degree, continuing down the Ironman triathlon rabbit hole has been like slightly influenced by the fact that I know I could document a build around it. I know I can talk to it.
I know it was successful in the past so that I could do it again. So like the next step was, okay, now my goal currently is to qualify for the world championships. I'm trying to like internally figure out that like, is that something that I am really just wanting to do?
Or is that something that's also being influenced from the fact that I know it's been successful in the past? Because I think ultimately I need to be really excited about what I'm doing because that's what makes my content work because it's just me like going through an experience and having fun with it. I don't know.
One of like the big life goals at some point is I want to do a through hike of the Pacific Crest Trail. Wow. I'm thinking I might start with like a smaller chunk of it at some point.
I don't know if that'll be soon or something. But yeah, I've got a bunch of different like random things that there's a swim between two Hawaiian islands. It's like 10 miles that I want to try to do at some point.
But yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Like it's weird to be able to do anything suddenly because.
I was like, okay, like what's the best thing to do? Because like the way my brain works is always like, I need to make sure I'm optimizing for what's like the best. But I think in general, I'm trying to just more so optimize for the stuff that I get excited about.
And that brings me joy. And I think that that will naturally shine through and whatever I do, as long as I'm enjoying it. So, yeah.
I can just imagine a list in your phone that reads hardest things that a human being can do. It's just, here's the next thing that I got to do to push myself and everything I could possibly do with my body. I think you're phenomenal.
And again, I think you have this character about you and this discipline and hard work and resilience. It's going to take you such a far ways. And it's really cool that, I mean, I get to watch this journey now unfold in terms of your next steps.
I have this one final question for you, Noah. And I know I mentioned this fact that I scrolled down to your old YouTube videos and 12 years ago, it was top 10 best backyard football catches. And it brings me back to my days when I was playing with my older brother as well.
What would you tell that version of yourself? If you could sit down and you're looking at him, the guy that's playing backyard football, that's posting his first YouTube video and seeing the successes that you've had today, what are you telling him about the journey that he's about to go on?
I think to not take life so serious, I think the past couple of years of my life especially, I've been too focused on the end result that you kind of lose focus of the journey a little bit. And that you can genuinely do anything that you want to do as long as you can be consistent with it and show up for it for a long period of time.
Like if you really want to do YouTube, dude, you can do YouTube. I never would have really believed that, I think, the 12 -year -old version of Noah or whatever that version of Noah was. But yeah, I feel like you can really do anything if you can keep showing up for it and you can stay consistent with it is the big piece of it that is very unsexy, but it definitely pays dividends and it has paid dividends for me in the past couple of years, especially.
You're amazing, Noah. Thank you so much for your time today. Yeah, absolutely dude.
Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. I appreciate all the kind words too.
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