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Max Perzon · YouTube

Alex Hormozi's Advice on Selling Courses

A Skool course operator plays five Alex Hormozi clips on selling online education and translates each into his own pricing and community playbook.

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Big Idea

The argument in one line.

The information in a course is now free everywhere, so the only thing actually worth paying for is implementation: the accountability, coaching, and gating that gets a buyer to an actual result.

Who This Is For

Read if. Skip if.

READ IF YOU ARE…
  • You sell or are building an online course and are unsure why it isn't converting at the price you want.
  • You run a paid community or cohort and want a clearer answer for what you're actually charging for.
  • You're pricing an info product low because you feel guilty charging more for 'just videos'.
  • You're deciding whether to accept every paying customer or add a screening step before letting people in.
SKIP IF…
  • You're selling a one-time low-ticket ebook or template with no coaching/community layer - the pricing-ladder advice here assumes an ongoing offer.
TL;DR

The full version, fast.

Course buyers rarely finish the videos, so the video content itself isn't the product - the coaching, community, and accountability that get someone to actually implement is. That reframing changes pricing: instead of asking how to justify a higher price, ask what would remove the buyer's biggest point of failure, then charge for the higher odds of success that creates. Because most people won't do the work, opening the door to anyone with a credit card guarantees refunds and bad reviews from people who were never a fit; a short application or qualifying call protects the completion rate and the price. Once a business tracks and publishes real outcome data (not hype), that data becomes the strongest sales asset, letting truth close deals that a testimonial reel can't.

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Chapters

Where the time goes.

00:0000:21

01 · Cold open

Perzon establishes credibility (won $100K from Hormozi's Skool Games) and previews the five points.

00:2102:23

02 · Point 1 - your secret isn't the secret

Hormozi clip: give away the course content free, sell the implementation. Perzon ties it to his own free Skool course that grew to 70K+ members.

02:2304:20

03 · Point 2 - what people actually pay for

Hormozi clip: accountability sells like water in fitness - people pay to do, not to know. Perzon reframes community/cohort pricing around accountability.

04:2006:14

04 · Bridge - proof from his own business

Perzon cites 1,000+ 5-star reviews, hundreds of testimonials, 40+ Skool Games winners, and his daily Q&A/community accountability layer.

06:1407:16

05 · Point 3 setup - you're too cheap

Transition into pricing: once you sell the result instead of the videos, pricing changes completely.

07:1607:40

06 · Point 3 - price follows the odds

Hormozi clip on lowering perceived risk to justify higher prices; Perzon's own pricing journey from $1,200/yr to $5K to $7K as data/proof accumulated.

07:4007:51

07 · Recap of points 1-3 plus CTA to free course

Perzon recaps implementation, accountability, and pricing, then plugs his free 7-hour YouTube training and workbook.

07:5109:46

08 · Point 4 - gate your buyers

Hormozi's Harvard-vs-make-money-guy analogy: turning away unqualified buyers protects results, reviews, and reputation. Perzon describes his application + call screening process.

09:4610:49

09 · Point 5 - track and publish real results

Hormozi: tracking success metrics removes the need for hype - the truth sells harder than promises.

10:4912:10

10 · Synthesis plus final CTA

One-sentence recap of the whole framework, admission that Perzon needs to formalize his own results reporting, and a close pitching his free course and paid help.

Atomic Insights

Lines worth screenshotting.

  • The information inside most courses is free everywhere online now; the coaching and accountability that gets someone to use it is the only part left worth charging for.
  • Most course buyers never finish the videos, so the completion rate - not the content quality - is the real bottleneck a seller should be solving for.
  • Charging more isn't about justifying a higher number; it's about removing the specific step where buyers get stuck so the odds of success actually go up.
  • A cheap price on an uncertain outcome still feels expensive, while a higher price on a near-certain outcome feels cheap - price follows perceived odds, not cost.
  • Starting with a low price is a deliberate proof-gathering strategy, not a mistake - the goal is fast data on what works, then a price increase once results back it up.
  • One creator moved from $1,200/year to $5,000 to $7,000 by adding no new content - only more proof, community, and coaching that raised the odds of the buyer's success.
  • If the only requirement to buy is a credit card and a pulse, unqualified buyers who don't get results become refund requests and bad reviews.
  • A short application, a qualifying call, or an explicit 'this isn't for you' line filters out bad-fit buyers before they can hurt the completion rate or the reputation.
  • Publishing real success-rate data at 30/60/90/365 days removes the need for hype entirely - a business that reports the truth about outcomes sells harder than one that markets promises.
  • The entire model collapses to one sentence: give away the information, sell the implementation, charge for the odds of success, gate who gets in, then track and publish the results.
Takeaway

Charge for the odds of success, not the content

PRICING PRINCIPLE

Course buyers pay for accountability and higher odds of finishing, not for information - so the path to charging more is removing failure points, not adding videos.

  • The information inside most courses is now free everywhere, so the coaching and accountability layer is the only part actually worth charging for.
  • Most buyers never finish a course, which means completion rate - not content depth - is the real product to engineer for.
  • Raising a price isn't about justifying a bigger number; it's about identifying the exact step where buyers get stuck and building a fix for it.
  • Starting with a low price is a deliberate strategy for gathering fast proof, not a beginner mistake - raise the price once results back it up.
  • Letting in anyone with a credit card guarantees refunds and bad reviews from buyers who were never a fit; a short application or call protects both sides.
  • Publishing real success-rate data at fixed intervals (30/60/90/365 days) replaces the need for hype - the truth closes harder than a promise.
Glossary

Terms worth knowing.

Skool
A community-and-course hosting platform used to run paid membership communities with courses, chat, and leaderboards attached.
CAC
Customer acquisition cost - how much it costs, in ad spend or effort, to convert one new paying customer.
Skool Games
A recurring competition run inside the Skool platform where community operators compete on growth metrics for cash prizes and recognition.
Resources

Things they pointed at.

07:19productSkool free course community
11:49linkcourse.com/start
Quotables

Lines you could clip.

01:23
If you're sitting on a course wondering why it won't sell, it might be because you're charging for the part the Internet gives away for free, and then you're giving away the part that you should be charging for.
sharp reversal, self-contained thesis statementTikTok hook↗ Tweet quote
02:38
People don't pay you to know. They pay you to do.
tight, quotable, no setup neededIG reel cold open↗ Tweet quote
04:20
You're not too expensive. You're too cheap. And you've made yourself too cheap by selling the wrong thing.
provocative punchline that reframes the whole pricing conversationTikTok hook↗ Tweet quote
07:44
Price follows the odds. If I believe I will get the results, I'll happily pay more.
clean one-line pricing principlenewsletter pull-quote↗ Tweet quote
10:04
The truth sells harder than any fake promises.
short, punchy, closes the loop on the tracking argumentIG reel cold open↗ Tweet quote
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00:00A while back, I entered Alex Ramosy's school games. One after building a $230,000 a month course business in just thirty days and walked away with a $100,000 check from Alex Ramosy himself.
00:12So when he talks about online courses and selling online courses, I pay very close attention. And going back through his stuff, one thing kept coming up. He sells information in the opposite way most people do.
00:23So I pulled his five best points on selling courses, and I'll play the actual clips for you and then show you how to use each one. And stick around for the third one because it's the one that most creators argue with right up until it doubles what they can charge. So let's get into it.
00:36And the first mistake is the biggest one, and it's hiding inside the words sell a course. And watch how Hermosy draws the line between a mediocre course and a real online education business. You can monetize the education itself.
00:48You can sell education, but I think the smart move, and if you've consumed any of my stuff, is that you give away the secrets, you sell the implementation. Take all the content you would normally sell as your course and give it all away for free. So if I were selling
01:03the ability to sell, then I would give away the course as content through all the different platforms I possibly could, and the implementation would be, let me listen to your sales calls, give you feedback in real time, and then monitor your performance over that period so that you become a salesperson.
01:21So your secrets is not the secret. The information is free now.
01:26What people pay for is someone walking them through actually doing it. Your course is literally the giveaway. The coaching, the feedback, the I look at yours and tell you what's wrong part, that's the offer.
01:37If you're sitting on a course wondering why it won't sell, it might be because you're charging for the part the Internet gives away for free, and then you're giving away the part that you should be charging for. And this is what I did with my free school course community that I launched back in 12/01/2025. I grew it to over 70,000 members in just six months, and the reason why it worked is because I gave away the first part of the implementation, how to build an online course completely for free.
02:02And since people found it valuable, it now ranks on the first page of school's discovery page, literally generating me free leads and warmed up sales calls every single day. And they trust the system because I literally gave it away for free, and they can see how it works. Giving away massive amounts of value for free on the Internet is hands down the biggest reason why I was able to make over $4,200,000 in my first two years with an online course.
02:25So if the information is free, what are people actually paying for? Hormulso got asked this directly by someone building a community, and his answer is the whole game. What does sell like water in fitness is accountability.
02:38Because the thing is is that RealReal, most people know what they need to do. They need to stop eating shit and move. The problem is they're not doing it.
02:44And so, really, the entire business model of fitness is around behavior change. So read that again. People don't pay you to know.
02:50They pay you to do because most buyers never even finish the course. So the thing you're really selling is whatever gets them to actually follow through. The deadlines, the check ins, the community, the ICU, keep going.
03:01So your secret method shouldn't be the diet or the funnel or the editing trick. Your secret method should be how you get people to actually stick with it. That's what's hard to copy, and that's what's worth real money as well.
03:13Now this is why a community or a cohort often out sells just a plain course at a higher price. You're not selling the map. You're selling the part where you walk next to them so they don't quit.
03:23And I honestly believe this is the single biggest reason why I've been able to generate close to 1,005 star trust button reviews, hundreds of video testimonials, and 40 plus clients who won the school games themselves. Building course businesses doing anywhere from 10 to 200 k per month. Not just because I created a step by step click by click training program, but because I made the accountability layer the most important part.
03:43Daily q and a calls, active community members pushing each other to actually do the work, and in person events where we sit down and actually implement together. The step by step instructions matter, obviously, but getting people the hands on help they need to actually follow through, that's what get them the results. And results are what get you more success stories and testimonials, which become your best marketing to sell even more.
04:04Results are literally everything. And you can only get results if you give your customers the help they need to actually implement what you teach, which leads me straight into pricing. Because once you're selling the result and not the videos, what you can charge changes completely.
04:18Because you're probably mispriced, and Alex fixes it live. Because here's the point that stings the most.
04:25You're not too expensive. You're too cheap. And you've made yourself too cheap by selling the wrong thing.
04:29And instead of selling the course, ask the question like, what I need to add to this thing to make it worth 6,000 or $8,000?
04:36Because you're already getting the people who want that help and you're giving them something that's moderately valuable. Let's be real. 27% of them are gonna make a login.
04:44And so if we want them to actually succeed, then basically adding in more perceived likelihood of achievement, so lower the risk for them by adding the pieces that they will struggle the most with. So notice how he said he didn't say drop your price. He said make the thing more likely to work, then the higher price makes sense.
05:02Price follows the odds. If I believe I will get the results, I'll happily pay more. If I'm not sure though, even a cheap price will feel expensive.
05:10So don't ask yourself, how do I justify charging more? Ask yourself, what's the part where my people get stuck? And how do I do that part with them or for them?
05:19Then add that. That's the upgrade that lets you charge 5 or even 10 times more for basically the same core content. It's normal to start with lower pricing in the beginning.
05:29You also have lower CAC in the beginning too. So that's also normal. Like, whenever you're launching your product, you're like, we're gonna kill it.
05:33It's because you always have the cheap you know, the very easy customers that are six inch putts. They already know you. They like you or whatever.
05:38They follow you for a little bit, and so they just hop over the byline. It's very easy. But when the guys over there, there's a lot more work that has to get get put into it.
05:44And so I'm a big advocate of have low CAC, have a low price, get the early results with the, you know, halfway point results. Like I told you guys yesterday, it was like, it's gonna be 65.
05:54I'm pricing it at 45 now. And as soon as I have like a full year or close to a full year data, I'll bump it. Because I already know that, like, I wanna make sure that just my price to value discrepancy is wild.
06:02The first people who took a shot when I had zero, was like, hey. This is gonna go way up, but I just need really good data. And notice that it starts with a low price on purpose to get the proof, then raises the price once the data shows that it actually
06:14Low price early is a strategy not set in stone forever. And this is exactly what I did when I got started. I charged as low as $1,200 a year.
06:23Then when I saw that the system actually worked, got feedback, customers got results, I had real data on what worked and what didn't, so I improved the product. And from that, we started getting even better results. And only then did I raise the price to 5 k and eventually 7 k as well.
06:36And people happily paid for it because they could see other people going through our system and building course businesses doing 10 to $200,000 a month. It was a no brainer for them.
06:45And it gets so much easier to sell when you have the proof to actually back it up. So start with a lower price, get those wins, then raise the price once you have them. And if you pair that with the community, coaching, q and a calls, and maybe some one on one support through a client success manager, you can easily charge 5 to 10 k for your offer instead of 1 to 2 k for just a bunch of videos with no proof behind it.
07:07But raising your price only works if the people you let in actually succeed. And Hormoz is ruthless about who he lets in, and this is where most course sellers get it completely backwards. Now the implementation, accountability, the pricing that I just walked you through, I teach the whole thing in a free seven hour training here on YouTube together with my 55 page online course workbook that you can download.
07:28If you would rather not piece it together yourself from a bunch of clips, that's where I lay it out from start to finish. The link is below if you want it. Either way, keep watching because point number four is the one that protects all of this.
07:39Because your instinct most likely says, take every customer who will pay, but Hermosa says that that's exactly how you build a refund pile and a bad reputation. His example is Harvard versus the make money tomorrow guy. Harvard turns people down.
07:54I applied for Harvard for 10 times rejected. If every single person who applies to work with you and the only requirements to become a customer of yours is a credit card and a pulse, ding ding ding, red flag number one. Most people probably aren't qualified to become customers.
08:08When anyone with a credit card can buy, most of them won't be a fit. And the ones who don't get the result are the ones who call you a scam or leave a bad review. Turning the wrong people away actually protects the result rate for the right ones.
08:21So simply put a small gate in front of your offer, an application, a short call, a couple of qualifying questions, a this isn't for you line on your sales page. And when you do this, you're not being arrogant. You're just making sure that the people who get in actually can win.
08:35And this is why we always do a call before we let anyone into our program, not just because it lets us charge higher ticket prices and handle objections, but because it lets us set the right expectations upfront. If someone is looking for a quick win without putting in the work, we tell them straight up that this isn't for them.
08:51We mention in our sales videos who we work with and who we don't work with. We have an application form before the call. And then on the call itself, we keep screening to make sure we only accept people into the program who has a real shot of actually being successful with it.
09:06Because if the wrong person gets in and they don't get results, that's a bad review, a refund request, and a headache for everyone. The gate protects them as much as it protects you. So fewer, better fit buyers means more wins, better reviews, better word-of-mouth, and the price you can hold goes up.
09:22The filter literally pays for itself. And the last point is one that ties the whole thing together because it's how you prove any of this is real to yourself and to the people deciding whether to buy from you or not. And Hormozi almost gets angry about this one because it's the thing that separates a real education business from just a hype machine.
09:41If you do not track your customer success metrics, meaning when someone buys,
09:46what percent of them succeed at thirty, sixty, ninety, twelve months? What are the averages for whatever the thing that you educate them on? If you track the data, then you don't add any sensationalism to what you're reporting.
10:01Harvard publishes what the top 20%,
10:04what the average, what the median person gets. So once you track what happens to your students, you don't have to hype anything. You just tell the truth.
10:13And the truth sells harder than any fake promises. You get to say the average person who joined six months ago is now doing this, and that one line closes people. And so this is the whole thing in one sentence.
10:24You're not in the information business. You're in the get them the result business. Give away the information, sell the implementation, charge for the odds of success.
10:34Only let the people in who will actually use it, and then track the results and let them do the selling. Do that, and you can't really be called a scam because you're literally just reporting on what happened to your students. And I watch creators all the time stay stuck because they're guessing.
10:48The second you start measuring, you find out what's actually working. And then you double down on it, and your offer gets better every single month on its own.
10:56And this is why I personally push so hard for people to to post the results inside of our community. And by now, we have literally hundreds of success stories from people who have built online course businesses doing 10 to 200 k a month. We have an entire scroll on our landing page dedicated to wins and testimonials.
11:10So the proof is there. But to be completely honest with you, actually pulling the data together into clean numbers and using it in our sales process and marketing, that's something that I personally need to get a lot better at. And after hearing Hermosa say this, it's moving up my personal priority list very fast.
11:26Because if I already have the results, all I have to do is measure them properly and let them do the selling for me. That's literally free money sitting on the table. So if you're sitting on a course and it's not selling the way it wants, you almost certainly do not have a content problem.
11:39You have an implementation problem. And that's what I've literally spent years now figuring out, and it's exactly what I help people to build inside of course. So head over to course.com/start and put a call with my team if you want me to help you build it.
11:51And if you wanna go deeper right now, I've put together a completely free seven hour course right here on YouTube where I walk you through step by step, click by click, how to start and grow an online education business from scratch, whether you want to become a course creator or a course operator. No opt in, no paywall, just everything I know.
12:08Go and watch that next. I will see you there.
The Hook

The bait, then the rug-pull.

A course operator who once won $100,000 in an Alex Hormozi-judged competition pulls five of Hormozi's best points on selling courses - and shows exactly how he's used each one to build a seven-figure education business of his own.

Frameworks

Named ideas worth stealing.

10:30concept

Give away / sell / charge for

  1. Give away the information
  2. Sell the implementation
  3. Charge for the odds of success
  4. Only let in people who'll use it
  5. Track results and let them do the selling

Perzon's one-sentence synthesis of all five Hormozi points into a single operating principle for course businesses.

Steal forany info-product or coaching offer pricing page
06:55list

The Formula To Charge More

  1. Start with a lower price
  2. Get those wins
  3. Then raise the price once you have proof
  4. Pair it with community, coaching, Q&A calls, 1-on-1 support

The on-screen pricing-ladder graphic showing how to move from $1-2K to $5-10K offers.

Steal fora new offer launch sequence
CTA Breakdown

How they asked for the click.

VERBAL ASK
11:49link
head over to course.com/start and put a call with my team if you want me to help you build it

Soft-gates the paid offer behind a call (mirrors his own point-4 advice), while also pointing to a genuinely free 7-hour YouTube course + workbook as a no-opt-in alternative.

FROM THE DESCRIPTION
PRIMARY CTAWhere the creator wants you to go next.
OTHER LINKSAlso linked in the description.
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