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July 24thThe argument in one line.
YouTube is handing creators more optimization tools than anyone can use, so the creators who win are the ones who post consistently and stream like a conversation is already happening before anyone shows up.
Read if. Skip if.
READ IF YOU ARE…
- A newer YouTuber who assumes creator conferences like VidSummit are only for people who have already made it.
- A long-form creator who has been treating Shorts as a branding afterthought and wants to know whether that logic still holds.
- Someone starting live streams to an empty chat who does not know what to say when nobody is talking back.
- A YouTube-only creator weighing Twitch, Rumble, or multistreaming and worried about the technical overhead.
- A creator stuck between CapCut, Camtasia, Premiere, and DaVinci Resolve who wants two honest, opposite answers on which way to go.
SKIP IF…
- You want a structured session-by-session recap of VidSummit. This is secondhand notes and audience Q&A, and both hosts admit they are fuzzy on several feature details.
- You are an established streamer with alerts, multistream relays, and chat tooling already solved.
- You want a deep technical breakdown of YouTube's new features. Nothing here goes beyond what was said on stage.
The full version, fast.
Two creators at opposite ends of the journey compare what they took from VidSummit 2026. The platform news: dynamic thumbnails served by region or language, geo-specific sponsor inserts, viewer-curated custom feeds, a Netflix-style Shows tab, video A/B testing, and auto-dubbed live streams are all coming or in the works. The strategy news: Shorts no longer poison a long-form channel, so both are going to post more of them, and streaming to every platform at once is now the default advice. The streaming lesson comes from a 15-hour solo session that hit 112 viewers: talk constantly as if someone is listening, because viewers join conversations, they do not start them. The closing rule on tools and editors is the same for both hosts: consistent posting matters more than any feature.
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00:00 – 05:00
01 · Waiting room
Five-minute countdown over a shot of a sleeping cat in the studio.
05:00 – 06:52
02 · Mic check and the co-host
Audio confirmed by chat. The host introduces his son, a Twitch streamer of ten years and a YouTube tech reviewer since April, and sets the QQQ question convention.
06:52 – 15:55
03 · Middle of the pack, not the smallest guy
The co-host expected to be the least successful person at VidSummit and found most attendees still grinding toward monetization. A chat member jokes about quitting over his 10,000-view average, which prompts the honest caveat: one hard-to-get device drives those numbers, and a camera review on the same channel got 285 views.
15:55 – 22:00
04 · Twitch vs YouTube, and streaming to nobody
Twitch is one-button, stream-first; YouTube makes you set up each stream and gives it its own URL. Then the core streaming lesson: the biggest night ever, 112 viewers, came from streaming alone and narrating every thought. People join conversations, they do not start them.
22:00 – 32:00
05 · Favorite parts of VidSummit
A brand-deal contract talk, but mostly the hallways: two-hour conversations between sessions, 75 sessions across five rooms, and the host being stopped constantly because his audience is other creators. They also streamed from the floor on registration day, saw the Twitch CEO on stage, and picked up Derral Eves' new book.
32:00 – 37:44
06 · The Shorts reversal
The host's long-held position was that Shorts subscribers would hurt long-form performance. Multiple creators and Nick Nimmin told him YouTube fixed that and Shorts are now a separate discovery surface. Both plan to post more; the co-host is already running StreamLadder to mine clips from long Twitch streams.
37:44 – 46:30
07 · Anatomy of a 15-hour stream
Why people watch game streams (hangout, not gameplay), the two viable game-streamer types, and the mechanics of the 15-hour session: instant chat replies, the snowball effect once chat has visible context, a 20-minute dinner break with the stream left running, and the rule to never stop talking. Closes with multistream chat tools and the line 'make yourself unavoidable'.
46:30 – 53:35
08 · Twitch money and the bandwidth wall
Affiliate at roughly 5 average viewers with a 50/50 split, partner at roughly 75 with better splits, and the free Prime sub the host forgot to use on his own son. Why the host can't easily multistream: 15 Mbps upload, about 6 needed per destination, so a relay service is the only path.
53:35 – 1:03:30
09 · YouTube changes, part one
From the host's phone notes: dynamic thumbnails served by region or language, geo-specific sponsor inserts in the works, and custom feeds that hand curation back to viewers. The co-host reframes the platform as a data machine where every click answers a question for the algorithm.
1:03:30 – 1:12:30
10 · YouTube changes, part two
Roberto Blake's line about involving the audience, the new Shows tab, and video A/B testing. The two split: the host thinks swapping video sections is too much work, the co-host argues YouTube pays for performance so serious creators must use every tool. They land on the same floor: consistent posting first, optimization later.
1:12:30 – 1:18:20
11 · Auto-dubbing, books, and Pocket Monster
Auto-dubbed live streams are coming, and the co-host guesses YouTube will use the existing stream delay as a translation buffer. Reading list from Nick Nimmin: Sponsor Magnet and Superfans. A secondhand story about a coach who restarted from zero opening Pokemon cards to prove it wasn't luck.
1:18:20 – 1:25:00
12 · The co-host's other life
He is an out-of-work software developer (Vue, TypeScript, Java to Go migration) who prefers UI design, which is why editing feels natural. What LiamA6 means, why his avatar is Todd Howard's face, and the VidSummit advice to put his real face in thumbnails.
1:25:00 – 1:32:20
13 · AI and the vanishing junior developer
Asked whether AI will replace coders, he answers as one: one good developer with Claude Code outproduces a team of juniors, mid-level roles are disappearing, and senior developers are becoming managers of AI agents. He wants out of programming and into content or hands-on IT.
1:32:20 – 1:39:30
14 · Studio lights and a hacking tangent
The pink, blue, and purple background comes from hand-me-down lights on smart plugs he wired to a Stream Deck through his own API. The host admits the gear graveyard he bought and never used. Then a tangent on reading keystrokes off window vibrations with infrared light.
1:39:30 – 1:46:06
15 · Which AI, and the Adobe trap
The host moved from ChatGPT to Claude because ChatGPT became a yes man; neither uses AI for thumbnails, but both use it for titles, the co-host by feeding ChatGPT the finished thumbnail. Then Adobe: great software, predatory pricing, and the switching cost that keeps him locked in.
1:46:06 – 1:55:30
16 · Stream everywhere: OBS vs Ecamm
Streaming to every platform is free advertising. OBS gives bitrate, frame-rate, and a music-free VOD audio track; Ecamm wins on pop-up comments but can't relay. A chat member supplies the fix: stream from Ecamm to Restream. Bitrate math, 1080p30 vs 1080p60, Starlink for rural creators.
1:55:30 – 2:02:40
17 · Picking an editor: go big or old shoe
For a CapCut user wanting to switch, two opposite answers: the host says Camtasia because it fits like an old shoe and makes screen-share animation fast; the co-host says jump to Premiere or DaVinci so you never have to switch again. Both end on rule number one: just post.
2:02:40 – 2:04:16
18 · Wrap
Two-hour cap hit. The co-host plugs his World of Warcraft stream later that night, and they agree to make a video together.
Lines worth screenshotting.
- Viewers do not start conversations with a streamer, they join one, so a solo streamer has to already be talking before anyone arrives.
- A gaming streamer's biggest night, 112 concurrent viewers, came the first time he streamed without friends in his headset.
- Chat beats Discord for growth because new viewers can scroll up and join a visible conversation, while a voice call gives them no context.
- YouTube pays for performance, not hours worked, so it will keep shipping optimization tools without caring how much extra work they create.
- Thumbnail and title A/B testing are table stakes if you are serious, but posting consistently matters more than any test.
- Shorts subscribers no longer drag down long-form performance; YouTube treats Shorts as a separate surface, so post there freely.
- Dynamic thumbnails will let you serve different artwork to North American, European, or Spanish-speaking viewers of the same video.
- Every click, hover, and 30-second abandonment is you answering a question for YouTube's recommendation system.
- Each stream destination needs roughly 6 Mbps upload; a 15 Mbps home connection cannot multistream at 1080p without a relay like Restream or StreamYard.
- Twitch affiliate needs about 5 average viewers for a month and pays a 50/50 split; partner needs about 75 and unlocks 60/40 and 70/30 splits.
- A niche with one in-demand device pulled 48,000 views on a 2,600-subscriber channel while a camera review on the same channel stalled at 285.
- One capable developer with Claude Code now outproduces a team of junior and mid-level developers, which is why those roles are vanishing.
- If you hate switching software, jump straight to Premiere or free DaVinci Resolve and ignore 80 percent of it rather than outgrowing CapCut twice.
- The cheapest starter kit is still a phone, a 20 dollar selfie stick, and a 100 dollar mic; the pink light and most of the rest end up unused.
Be unavoidable, keep talking, and post before you optimize.
WHAT TO LEARN
YouTube's next wave of tools rewards creators who are already consistent, and live audiences grow for streamers who narrate as if the room is full before anyone walks in.
03Middle of the pack, not the smallest guy
- Creator conferences are mostly attended by people still grinding toward monetization, so a small channel is not a reason to stay home.
- A high view average can hide a narrow niche; check how a channel's off-niche videos perform before copying its strategy.
04Twitch vs YouTube, and streaming to nobody
- Narrate every thought out loud when streaming alone, because new viewers join a conversation already in progress and leave silence immediately.
- Streaming with friends in a voice call feels easier but costs the one-to-one connection small-stream viewers come for.
- Twitch is one button to go live; YouTube requires per-stream setup and a new URL each time, which matters if you stream daily.
05Favorite parts of VidSummit
- The highest-value part of a conference is unscheduled hallway time, so leave gaps in your session plan.
- If your audience is other creators, a creator conference doubles as a fan meetup; plan for it eating your schedule.
06The Shorts reversal
- Shorts subscribers no longer suppress long-form performance; YouTube treats Shorts as a separate discovery surface worth posting to.
- Long streams leave hours of unused footage; AI clipping tools can surface candidate shorts, but expect to trim for context yourself.
07Anatomy of a 15-hour stream
- Public chat beats a private voice call for growth because latecomers can scroll up, catch the context, and join in.
- Leaving the stream running through a short break keeps the room alive; viewers will talk to each other while they wait.
- Stream to every platform you can at once; each extra destination is free exposure for the same effort.
08Twitch money and the bandwidth wall
- Twitch affiliate takes roughly a 5-viewer monthly average at a 50/50 split; partner needs about 75 viewers and improves the split.
- Budget about 6 Mbps upload per streaming destination, and use a relay service if your connection cannot carry two feeds.
- If a hobby stream starts to feel like a job, question whether the money justifies it; the stress is real and the pay is small.
09YouTube changes, part one
- Dynamic thumbnails will let one video show different artwork by region or language, so plan thumbnails per audience, not per video.
- Custom feeds give viewers back control of what they see, which rewards channels people deliberately choose to follow.
- Treat every click, hover, and early exit as data you are feeding the recommendation system about what you want more of.
10YouTube changes, part two
- YouTube pays for performance, not effort, so expect more optimization tools without any regard for the work they add.
- Thumbnail and title A/B testing are worth doing once you are consistent; video A/B testing may demand more than it returns.
- Consistent posting outranks every tool; add optimization only after a steady cadence stops producing results.
11Auto-dubbing, books, and Pocket Monster
- Auto-dubbed live streams will extend reach to non-English viewers without extra work from the creator.
- Restarting a channel from zero in a new niche is the strongest answer to being told your success was luck.
12The co-host's other life
- Putting your real face in thumbnails builds recognition faster than a themed avatar, even if the avatar signals shared fandom.
- A self-deprecating running joke, like a look-alike avatar, can become a brand asset when you lean into it.
13AI and the vanishing junior developer
- One capable developer paired with Claude Code now replaces a team of juniors, so entry-level programming roles are shrinking fast.
- Senior developers are becoming managers of AI agents, which still requires deep programming knowledge to direct precisely.
14Studio lights and a hacking tangent
- A phone, a cheap selfie stick, and a good mic cover most starter needs; colored lights and extra gear usually end up unused.
15Which AI, and the Adobe trap
- Switch AI assistants when one becomes a yes man; disagreement is part of the value.
- Design the thumbnail first, then feed it to an AI for title options; the image constrains the promise better than text alone.
- Audit editing software costs before you are locked in; switching later costs more time than most beginners can spare.
16Stream everywhere: OBS vs Ecamm
- OBS gives control over bitrate, frame rate, and a music-free VOD audio track; simpler tools trade that for convenience.
- A cloud relay like Restream lets a weak upload connection reach multiple platforms from a single feed.
- 1080p at 60 fps needs roughly double the upload bandwidth of 30 fps; only pay for it if your content moves fast.
17Picking an editor: go big or old shoe
- If you hate relearning software, start with a professional editor and ignore most of it rather than outgrowing a simple one.
- If speed to publish matters most, the tool you already know beats a more capable one you have to learn.
Terms worth knowing.
- VidSummit
- An annual creator-industry conference in Dallas aimed at creators networking and learning from each other, as opposed to VidCon, where creators meet their fans.
- Multistreaming
- Broadcasting one live stream to several platforms at once, such as YouTube, Twitch, and Facebook, either directly from streaming software or through a relay service.
- Restream / StreamYard
- Browser or cloud relay services that take a single upload from the creator and redistribute it to multiple platforms, cutting the bandwidth needed for multistreaming.
- Twitch affiliate and partner
- Twitch's two monetization tiers. Affiliate unlocks paid subscriptions at a 50/50 revenue split; partner requires a higher sustained viewer average and offers better splits and more emotes.
- Prime sub
- A free monthly Twitch subscription included with Amazon Prime that viewers can give to one streamer, who still receives the revenue share.
- VOD
- Video on demand. On Twitch, the recorded archive of a past live stream; on YouTube, the replay that remains after a stream ends.
- Dynamic thumbnails
- An upcoming YouTube feature that serves different thumbnails for the same video to different audiences, segmented by region, language, or possibly demographics.
- Video A/B testing
- A previewed YouTube feature that would let creators test alternate versions of a video or a section of it, extending today's thumbnail and title testing.
- Shows tab
- A newer YouTube channel tab for organizing videos into seasons and episodes, modeled on streaming services to make channels easier to browse on TVs.
- Mbps upload
- Megabits per second of outbound internet bandwidth. Live streaming at 1080p30 needs roughly 6 to 10 Mbps per destination; 60 fps roughly doubles that.
- VOD audio track
- A separate audio channel in OBS that excludes music, so the archived replay is not muted for copyright even though the live stream had music.
- AI agents
- Separate AI instances each assigned a role and task, such as front-end, database migration, or rebranding, coordinated by a human who writes their instructions.
Things they pointed at.
30:11bookDerral Eves' new book
31:07channelDan Clancy (Twitch CEO) on stage with Jynxzi
34:00channelNick Nimmin
36:02toolStreamLadder (AI stream clipping, scheduling)
46:37productRumble
53:36toolStreamYard
1:03:36channelRoberto Blake
1:05:22channelMKBHD video on video A/B testing
1:15:10bookSponsor Magnet by Justin Moore
1:15:10bookSuperfans by Pat Flynn
1:15:10channelPat Flynn's Pocket Monster channel
1:39:32toolClaude (primary AI for the channel)
1:39:32toolChatGPT (thumbnail-first title generation)
1:42:45toolAffinity (Adobe alternative)
1:46:06toolOBS
1:48:36toolEcamm Live
1:49:56toolRestream.io
1:51:40toolStreamlabs (alerts, mobile IRL streaming)
1:55:42productStarlink
1:57:31toolCamtasia
1:57:31toolMovavi, Wondershare Filmora, Descript
1:57:31toolDaVinci Resolve (free tier)
Lines you could clip.
21:30
“People aren't going to start a conversation with you. They're going to join a conversation. So you need to already be having a conversation with yourself.”
20:34
“You need to stream like no one's watching, essentially, and just talk.”
46:37
“Make yourself unavoidable. Just be in everybody's face.”
50:29
“If it feels like a job, just go get a job. This is too stressful for something you're only doing for money.”
1:01:38
“Everything you are doing in YouTube is answering a question for a robot.”
1:08:26
“YouTube does not pay their creators for the work. They don't pay creators for hours worked. They pay creators for performance.”
1:10:47
“What's more important is consistently posting, period. If this is something you're worried about, like, oh geez, that sounds like a lot of work, I'm not gonna do anything. Don't do that.”
1:03:36
“As much as you want to be seen, so does your audience.”
1:25:33
“One good developer with a great AI plan, Claude Code for example, will code circles around an entire group of junior and mid-tier developers.”
2:02:09
“Rule number one, just post. Whatever you got to do to post, do that. You do not need the best of the best.”
1:46:06
“It's just free real estate to put yourself out there. Just plaster your face on every billboard you possibly can.”
1:40:01
“I ended up leaving ChatGPT because it became too much of a yes man and it was always agreeing with me.”
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Hello, everybody. How we doing? Can you hear me?
That's a question right off the top. I've been messing around trying to get Liam set up in Zoom. I just want to make sure you can hear me.
Looks like it was working. Maybe you guys can confirm. Somebody, please.
Good to be back. Good to see you guys. Yes.
Awesome. Thank you, Curated555+. Appreciate that.
So yeah, finally back home. Got home over the weekend or late, late Friday night, I guess. My son and I went down to VidSummit, and we're going to talk about that today.
I've got him here. So instead of wasting a whole bunch of time, why don't I bring him on right now? Everybody, this is Liam, a .k .a.
Liam A6. How's it going, everybody? And we'll do another mic check.
Can everybody hear Liam? Test, test. Hopefully people can hear me.
You can hear me. That was the first test. Somebody?
Scott says, hi, Liam. Hi, Liam. Hi, Liam.
Hi, Liam. Everybody's saying hi, Liam. Oh, sounds good.
Scott says perfect. Awesome. All right.
So what are we doing today? I was going to put a chat message in ahead of time just to let you guys know. If anybody has any questions, feel free to ask.
QQQ, as always, put that in your question and ask anything you like. We're here. Let us know who you want to ask a question to.
Also, myself or Liam. So let me kind of introduce Liam. Let me introduce you properly.
So Liam not only came with me to Dallas as my son, but as a YouTube creator as well. So he's got his own channel. It's at Liam A6.
He also does live streaming on Twitch. And I've got links to both his channels in the description below if you guys want to check it out.
Yeah, there you go. His content is a little different than mine, so maybe a little bit not in the same niche, but that's okay.
Yeah, so if you have any questions, I don't know, Liam, let me just kind of turn it over to you. What did you think about VidSummit? What are your thoughts about that?
Did you enjoy it? I thought it was incredible. I thought it was an amazing experience.
All the networking and talking to so many other creators, it definitely sparked quite a bit of motivation, for me anyway, to continue pursuing content creation and things like that. I've always kind of done Twitch as a hobby sort of thing. I play video games like every other dude my age does, but I just hit record.
Or go live, I mean, when I do it. I've been doing it for 10 years now, just playing video games and streaming on Twitch just for fun so my friends can see what's going on and to sometimes meet new people in the chat. But I only started taking YouTube seriously at the start of this year, kind of.
I have some other uploads from before that. And from way back, like 2016, I was making gaming videos and stuff. But I started doing tech review sort of stuff on my YouTube channel with some humor in there.
It's feeling more like something that I could possibly see myself doing in the future as something more serious than just a hobby. So doing VidSummit really made me feel like that was something that is actually possible. Cool.
So you told me one thing, so I know the answer to this, but I thought maybe if you could share it with everybody. I think you said that when you went to VidSummit, you felt like maybe, I don't want to say you. felt like maybe you weren't going to belong, but didn't think your channel was large enough maybe to learn anything from it?
I don't know. What are your thoughts on that now? Yeah, that's 100 % how I felt.
I mean, the ticket is super expensive. Flying there is super expensive. I would not have been able to afford to go on my own.
But it just felt like it was people who had already achieved a certain level of success where they were able to pay for something like that. to pay for a trip like that or a ticket to an event like that. But in reality, a lot of the people that were there were kind of in the same stage that I'm in where they are taking a risk themselves with their YouTube channel.
So my YouTube channel has 2 ,600 subscribers. Not very big. I think my view count speaks better towards how well I'm doing on YouTube right now.
I usually average around 10 ,000 views per video, which I'm very proud of. there were i just figured i'd be the smallest smallest guy there i figured that everyone there is on some level of higher success that i have not achieved yet so it's kind of your tag along but in reality i was more like middle of the pack which i was not expecting at all there were a lot of people there that have been doing this for a lot longer than i have and still trying to get monetized so what i would say is i feel like an event like that to you know a newer youtuber or something might seem like something that They could attend down the road.
But in reality, it's open to literally anywhere, like anyone and anywhere you are in the YouTube journey. You're more than welcome to go. And there are lots of people there that maybe haven't even started a YouTube channel.
Like, I don't know. Like there was all sorts of, there are people who are huge, of course, but more often than not, there were people, you know, with 11 ,000 subs that have been doing this for like two years and averaging. Couple hundred views per video and so they were still kind of on their grind and trying to learn and things like that So that that's one big thing that surprised me about it was that there were so many different types of creators from different backgrounds doing different genres on YouTube that it definitely I did not feel like I Didn't belong at all, which I kind of thought I would so I thought that was pretty cool I just want to address one comment that I saw in here from Scott winning the week.
He says 10 ,000 views per video. Okay, I quit. Can I actually address that?
Yeah. The 10 ,000 views per video, like this is not, I have a video. So I wanted to do tech reviews with my channel and I posted a video on a very niche, niche, niche device that is very hard to get.
This is a very special circumstance. And you can see on the channel right there. It's that one device, right?
It's a very difficult device to get. And I bought it very early. And people are super obsessed with this device and are scared to pull the trigger on whether or not to buy it.
So I found a super niche subject. If you scroll down far enough, you should find my Osmo Pocket video. That is when I stepped out of my niche to try and make a video about something that wasn't this device.
There it is. Insane. 285 views.
Oh, geez, I was hearing myself there. Sorry, was that too loud? It was a little loud.
I worked so hard on that video and it did horrible in comparison to the rest of my stuff. It is not like, it's definitely the niche that I'm in. I just want to say that the niche that I'm doing, I'm kind of locked to this device right now.
And that's one challenge and something that I was asking people about, some of the people who are more experienced with this is how do I broaden the content that I can make without, views completely plummeting. Um, so just, yeah, so it's, I'm, I'm gaming the system right now, essentially is what I'm doing.
Uh, I'm super interested in this device and I enjoy making videos about it, but it's really the only videos that do well on my channel. So just to address the, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Don't quit, Scott. Don't quit. As you can see, Liam got 285 views on, and that was only, that was six months ago.
So it was, it looks like it was five months ago you made your first video with this new device. And that first video is up to 48 ,000 views now. Is that still growing or did that all happen as soon as you put the video out?
So actually, you'll see the first video I made for that device is before the camera video. Oh, the Endgame handheld? Down there.
Yeah, and that one... did really well for me. Like I was just like, whoa, like a thousand views.
That's crazy. Like at first it was like 5 ,000. I was like, holy, that's incredible.
And then I made the camera video and I was like, okay, no more camera videos. I went back to the device and then 48 ,000. And yes, it is still growing.
That's the thing. All of these videos that are up here, like the camera one is dead in the water, but all of the videos about that device are going up relatively steadily. Yeah.
Oh, that's amazing. And also, so where was your channel I think it was April or so, wasn't it?
When you made that switch, how many subscribers did you have? And I don't know if you remember, but how many watch hours did you have like back in April before you started making these videos? My subscriber count I know was 500.
I was very proud to have 500 subscribers on YouTube as it was a relatively inactive channel. But I was just like, okay, nice, 500. No idea about the watch hours.
Watch hours weren't a thing when I started YouTube. That was not something that was measured or at least it wasn't presented to content creators and shown to them in their analytics. But I started YouTube before they even cared about any of that stuff to monetize you.
I got monetized just for having 100 subscribers, I think it was. And they would literally send me cents. Like they would just, there was no payment threshold.
There was no watch hour requirement. They would like literally send me 20 cents every month. When was this?
My videos were very small. I want to say this was 2015. The videos are actually still on my channel.
They're just privated. Okay. A lot of the humor was stupid 13 -year -old boy humor and just not something I really want on my channel anymore.
But it's funny to go back and look at. It's just like funny moments stuff with my friends. I mean, we all got on our video games after school and I would just hit the record button and I'd stitch it all together and edit it in a funny way.
And I'm actually grateful that I learned those. So I learned Adobe Premiere. Actually, I used Sony Vegas back then, but I learned all those editing softwares back then.
And when I got back into it in April, it was just like, okay, like I know how to edit and stuff, so I'm good. So I was very lucky to have gotten, taken interest in that so early in life so that I wouldn't have to learn it all over again as an adult. Because it's hard.
It's hard learning a lot, like all the editing software and stuff like that. Like it's not easy. So hats off to the new YouTubers out there that are taking everything all at once, trying to take it in and learn.
Good stuff. And just for context, so people understand kind of where we are on the timeline. So 2015, when Liam was starting on YouTube and getting 10 and 20 cents sent to him by having a hundred subscribers, I guess, I was still five years away from thinking about getting into YouTube.
Like I was nowhere near, I might've watched the odd video back then, but so Liam is the one that's kind of taught me things about. even live streaming because Liam live streams on Twitch. And I saw somebody had a question here.
Where was it? It was for you, Liam. And here it is from TG Slots.
Question for Liam. How do you compare Twitch to YouTube live streaming? Do you dual stream?
Kind of vague question, but curious your thoughts on the two platforms. So I've been thinking a lot about this, actually, ever since going to VidSummit. Multi -streaming is the way to go.
That is what you should be doing to grow your stream. I don't. I only stream on Twitch.
That is out of pure laziness. I'm still transitioning from hobby to taking it seriously on Twitch just because it's where I play my video games. Video game videos, I wouldn't recommend to anybody making video game content.
It's fun. But it's oversaturated. There is so much of it on the internet, you don't even understand the number of viewers you're competing for, essentially.
Like the content creator to viewer ratio is what you need to look at there. It's awful in that genre. So it's something I do for fun.
But no, I... I would like to do a stream, and I've tried it before on YouTube. Now, the difference between Twitch and YouTube is that Twitch is stream -oriented.
Everything is oriented around streams, and then you have videos, or on Twitch they're called VODs, Video On Demand. VODs are an afterthought. So those are on the page as well, and you can go and look at them.
But for YouTube, YouTube is video -oriented, and to me, it still seems like streams are a little bit of an afterthought. Not so much an afterthought, but I guess it's not as focused on streams as Twitch is. So what you'll have with YouTube is you have, when you go to go live, it's not just clicking a button.
You set a description, you do all of this prep work for one stream. And that's what I found really annoying when I tried to multi -stream between Twitch and YouTube, is that for Twitch, I can hit a button. with YouTube, I need to actually create the live stream in Twitch's or YouTube's settings and set everything up in there before I can even go live.
And it gives you a separate link every single time. And it does that so that you can have a dedicated video afterwards, which makes total sense for YouTube. But it's a real pain.
It's a real pain. I go live like, I mean, there was points where I was going live every day of the week and I'd stream for like five hours. I mean, I'm just hitting the button every time I play video games and I love video games.
So it's just whenever I had free time, go live. Boom. But yeah, that's the main difference.
And I'm not sure what the benefits are to streaming on one versus the other. Twitch always used to be the gaming side of things. And YouTube, quite frankly, didn't have live streaming when I started streaming.
So Twitch was my only option. And that's kind of where I sunk my teeth in. I remember when I just so I had made a few videos and I was still learning the ropes of YouTube and thinking about doing live streams and found it very difficult.
I put a lot of time and effort and thought, excuse me, into what to even talk about in my live streams and ended up deciding on doing demonstrations and stuff. But I remember thinking, like, what do I talk about? And I remember talking to you about it and you said.
what you just said again, uh, like, cause for you, you enjoy playing video games with your friends. You happen to do it live and they're live with you and you're just hanging out with your friends just in different rooms. Um, and the advice you gave me was just, just go live and, and talk to people like you would normally talk, like, don't even worry about it too much.
What you're going to talk about, just be yourself. Yeah. And one thing I do want to add to that though, is And something that I've noticed recently with streaming on Twitch is I always used to do it while in a call with someone else, with my friends.
So I can hear my friends in my headphones and the stream can hear my friends. And I stream like I'm not streaming. I'm just playing games with my friends, talking to my friends like the camera's not even on.
And it makes it so easy. The problem with that is I'm noticing viewers don't love that. Viewers don't love when you're playing with a bunch of other people and...
It takes away that one -to -one connection that people look for when they're watching a smaller streamer, for example. Right. So I noticed when I started going live on my own without my friends talking to me and things like that, my viewer count went up.
Just last week, I had a stream. This is the most viewers I've ever had in a live stream. I hit 112 viewers at once.
Okay. And I was hyped up because I was playing video games. Like getting that many viewers while playing video games in that super saturated environment was insane for me.
But I was alone. And just what worked for me, and this is so much harder than being in a call with friends. When you're streaming alone, you have no one to talk to, especially if you're a new streamer and no one's in your chat.
There's no one to talk to. You need to literally say every thought in your head out loud. Whatever you see on the screen, whatever you feel like talking about, anything that comes to mind, say it out loud and talk as if you're talking to yourself, essentially, because you are.
You need to stream like no one's watching, essentially, and just talk. And that for me helped a lot. And it's a very hard thing to do, but it's a skill and you can develop it as you go.
And it's something that will absolutely help you if you're interested in something like streaming is just stream alone. Obviously keep an eye on the chat, address the chat. But yeah, other than that, if you've got no chatters, just keep talking.
People will pop in and see that you're talking to no one and doing nothing and leave immediately. You need to grab their attention before they even have the chance to talk to you. Because people aren't going to start a conversation with you.
They're going to join a conversation. So you need to already be having a conversation with yourself. Ah, people don't join live streams to start a conversation.
They join them to join a conversation. I like that. I should, this is where I should go like clip.
All right, there's a clip. There's a new short. Yeah.
Awesome. Awesome. Aren't those song lyrics?
Heidi says, aren't those song lyrics? You got a stream like no one's watching? Maybe.
All right. So, okay, yeah, there's a lot of other questions in here, but I also want to kind of pivot a little bit to VidSummit. What was your favorite part?
I mean, I had a blast at VidSummit. It was awesome. And I can talk about my experience with it.
But why don't you share yours? Like, what was your, I don't know, what was your favorite part about it, if you have a favorite part? Yeah.
So it seemed like a lot of it was oriented around the keynote talks where you could go to different creators talks and they'll have like, it's like a big dark room, a bunch of seating for people. And they'll often do an interview with another person or just talk about their experience. There was one really cool talk about how to take brand deals and what language to look for in contracts and things like that.
A little bit over my head. I'm at the point where if someone wants to give me anything to make a video, I'm like, yep. all right sure why not i do i do shut down some but um recently a company sent me a battery pack it looked really cool and they didn't want to send me any money and usually you don't really want to take deals like that but i was just like this looks awesome and i want it so i was like let's do it and they're getting an insert i plan on posting today and they'll be in that video um but no i thought that talk was really cool but one thing i noticed is that The most value that I got, like my favorite part was genuinely just talking to other creators.
It was so easy to talk to people. Like I typically, I'm not a super social guy. It may not seem like that when I'm talking on the camera because this is pretty much all I do with my free time.
But like at parties and stuff, like I don't really start a whole lot of conversations and things like that. But at VidSummit, everyone there is a creator. Everyone there has experienced the same issues you have or the same struggles with making content.
And it's... genuine, like I have genuine curiosity for what they do on YouTube because I just, I really want to know. So starting up conversations like that with other people and networking was so cool.
And I think that alone pays for the whole, the whole thing. I mean, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't pay anything for the whole thing, so I got a pretty good deal out of it. But yeah, no, that's for me, that was my favorite part.
Just talking to people, learning about what they did. I went to different booths and I kind of like took my shot trying to get some collaboration deals and stuff like that. I actually did take a call with another creator and they had some questions about AI for me.
I guess they were calling everyone in their contact list that they were collecting while they were there just to ask about AI and how they can integrate it into their systems. And I had a chance to tell them, hey, like I'm a software developer that's looking for work right now. So if you need me to make something custom, I can do that.
So just a lot of opportunity, I think. Yeah, yeah. I think I'd agree.
My favorite part was the hallways between the sessions. Not to take away from the sessions, but quite honestly, I probably attended, I don't know, like maybe eight. If I attended 10, I don't even think I got to 10.
And there were 75. Right. There were obviously you can't go to all of them.
I think there were five locations, five or six locations. So there were five or six going at one time all the time, always scheduled at the same time with with 10 minute breaks between them. So it's impossible to see them all.
But you get a link, an email afterwards. And I've already received it with a link to view them all afterwards. And they were great.
The ones that I attended were awesome. And I made sure there were some that I definitely didn't want to miss. But the time between them, like in the hallways, I thought that was amazing.
I remember the first day, I went to one early in the morning, the first one, Roberto Blake at 8 a .m. I don't think you made that one. And it was, when it was over, I went out in the hallway and there was another one I wanted to see next, but I ended up talking for, it had to have been two hours.
I think it was two hours that I just ended up talking like you're talking to somebody and then and then somebody else comes up and then you end up talking to them. And and yeah, so I love that part of it. And talking to the people who I look up to and learn from, like like Nick Niven and Nate Black and April in Alter as well.
Yeah. So networking. I think that was my favorite part.
I think something funny about this, though, is that you have VidCon and VidSummit. And the difference there is VidCon is where creators go and they do meetups with the people that watch their content. VidSummit is where creators go and network and things like that.
But your audience are creators. Yes. So people were going up to you like you were a Hollywood star.
And that was insane to witness as your son, I must say. Because we're in a pretty rural area in Nova Scotia, Canada, and you don't get that treatment around here, pal. No, I do not.
It's going to take me 11 months to come back down off my high, but then I'll have to go back. Like people were coming up to me as if I was your assistant, which was really funny. But it's like, I mean, I kind of am like, he flew me out here.
Like, yeah, what do you need to know about Rob the Maritimer? I can help you out. But it was just so funny because I was seeing people there respectfully that are significantly larger than, than what you have as a following, uh, not being like pulled aside as much as you were like not even close.
So it's just, it was just funny that, yeah, the, the way that that lined up so perfectly, it, it almost like I was. almost wondering if you were going to get a chance to see some of the things that you wanted to, because people were coming up to you so much. Um, but like you said, like there's so much value in talking to all those people in those hallways.
And I think that I agree that that's also my favorite part. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, and you're right. I, so I put a video out yesterday. Um, and one of the things I mentioned, I talked a little bit about vid summit in it and, and also what I learned about shorts and we can talk about that, but, uh, Yeah, I kind of shout it out to a few people I know who make content to help people grow on YouTube.
And if that's what you do, if that is what you do, like, yeah, you go to VidSummit and people will make you feel like a rock star. But, you know, that's not the reason we go. I mean, it's to learn, right?
That was my primary reason for going is to learn. I was excited to do a live stream there because it kind of matched up the Tuesday where I normally go live. at the time i usually go live um it was registration day so there was no sessions going on and it was our first day there so we walked in at first and just we got our loot bags or whatever and and registered and got our lanyards uh and then decided to you know met with a few people and then decided let's okay let's do this live how are we gonna do it like i had no idea in my mind I don't know.
I think I pictured that we'd be able to sit down at a table in there somewhere and set up my laptop and second camera and all this stuff. But no, in reality, we just put my phone on my selfie stick and we went outside. We started outside and we went live and we walked in.
And that was kind of fun. I learned, like, that was the first time I've ever had a videographer.
Yeah. I kind of like doing videography, actually. I enjoyed that.
I want to do a IRL in real life stream sometime. Oh, yeah. I was trying to get that all sorted out with that camera, actually, on that video that you pulled up.
But it doesn't seem to want to work, really. So it'll have to be from the phone. So I got to figure something out there.
But yeah, I enjoyed that live stream. It was fun. That was fun.
Yeah, it actually, it didn't go by as quickly as I thought. When I look back, it was actually a little under an hour, which is pretty short for my live streams. But I guess I felt like we had done enough and like, what do we do next?
I don't know. Like I was a little bit of like a fish out of water there. Not, you know, we walked up to some random people and had some chats, but yeah, no, it was fun.
Just kind of wanted to, and I've got some more B -roll too. I'll probably sprinkle into my upcoming videos just to show. what we saw.
I actually didn't take as much footage as I thought I would when I was there, just busy, really busy, and came away from that very tired, and my brain was full. And yeah, still have stuff to process and a whole lot of stuff to watch. And this book, whoops, this book here is Daryl Eve's new book.
I highly recommend, well... I suppose I can't really highly recommend it yet because I've just started. But listen to his talk.
And it was amazing. You and I both went to that one. He had a great talk talking about where YouTube's going and just some general advice, talking about some of the changes and stuff.
And yeah, I really liked his talk. You got to see, actually, we both saw the CEO of Twitch give a speech. That's right, Dan Clancy.
Yeah, we got to see him talk with a streamer on Twitch, Jshock. More popular with the younger crowd, for sure. Like, younger than me.
Although my buddies know who he is. And he's a very funny guy. So it was cool to see both of them talking live.
And that's actually where I saw... I'm not sure if you guys know the creator, Caleb Hammer. He does finance videos.
Usually pretty harsh, but... relatively good advice about finance stuff. And he'll have the odd like famous person on a show or whatever, but he was actually there watching that talk.
So I got a chance to go say hi to him. I've seen him all over my For You page on the short form content side of things. But no, it was really cool seeing the CEO of Twitch.
It definitely seemed like it was a more YouTube oriented situation. Like everyone there was doing YouTube or TikTok. Those were like the core.
Um, but I think one thing that we both learned while we were there was that we've been slacking a little bit on our short form content game. Yeah. Maybe you want to talk a little bit about that.
Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, and I did make a video about that yesterday.
So as a lot of, you know, um, I've been, my story has been just use shorts for branding. If you want to grow a long form video channel and that's your primary focus, uh, because that's. typically where the money's at, right?
You may make more money from long form views than short form. And, you know, it just kind of pairs well with being on, you know, the authentic talking head style videos, the kind of videos I make. If that's what you want to do too, I've always thought of shorts as just being, you know, like.
Just use them as a branding tool like like so that your subscribers will see you every once in a while if they happen To be going through shorts But you know don't lose too much sleep over it. Don't worry about making a ton of them It's been months actually since I've made any even though I talk about them fairly frequently I have Nexus clips as a sponsor of mine, and I make videos talking about that, but it's not like it's not something I use every day So but the reasoning And you can watch yesterday's video.
I don't have to talk that extensively about it. But basically, the thought was that if you do shorts and happen to blow up with a short and get a whole bunch of subscribers from shorts, that that might hurt your long -form channel. And, you know, the more I think about it, it's almost, I almost want to say, like, I feel like I should have known better.
You know what I mean? Like, you know. You got to think that YouTube knows where your subscribers are coming from, right?
Whether they're coming from shorts or whether they're coming from longs. And by saying, you know, if you get up too many short subscribers, then when you come up with a long form video and, you know, most of your short subscribers don't ever watch long form and then a low percentage of people, your subscribers watch those, the video might not do well.
That was kind of the way I was thinking about it, and I talked to several people about that and said, no, no, that kind of used to be the way it was, but YouTube's kind of fixed that. And I talked to Nick Nimmin about that, and he concurred, like, yeah, you don't have to worry about that. It's a separate platform.
Post there as much as you can. It's great for discoverability. And that's what we also found out from several creators who've done that very thing to grow.
significantly large, like way larger channels than, than ours. Shorts has helped them. So that's what I've learned.
So I haven't done anything about it yet because I'm still, again, processing all of this stuff and trying to develop a plan, but in the not too distant future, I'm going to be making more shorts. How about you? Absolutely.
I've actually already started. So for me, yeah, for me, I kind of have two separate, like my, Twitch streaming and my YouTube are very separate things.
My Twitch is games and just kind of like I literally go on there and, you know, have a drink and play some games and stuff. And YouTube is a little more serious, still pretty humor heavy, but tech review stuff. So it's not gaming necessarily.
But for Twitch, I will stream like I have my longest stream ever two weeks ago now, and it was 15 hours long. And I got. up to like 80 viewers at one point and there was a lot of funny moments and things like that and we were having a blast and that's so much content that just gets left in my vods collection on twitch to to basically die it just doesn't do anything there right yeah so i wanted something that could help me uh find the best moments in a 15 hour stream like i try to download that stream 40 gigabytes and it's not even 4k it's it's it's 1080p so i was like okay how can i go through all this and grab some some good parts and twitch lets you clip things but i wanted something else to find those spots for me so i don't have to Cypher through all of it, and I found this service I'm not partnered with them in any way, but it's called stream ladder and so far my experience has been good I've been using the free trial and What it does is it scans a long stream, and I think you can use YouTube links as well But you give it the link to your twitch stream, so you have to download anything it scans through and What it does it'll collect some clips where you literally said clip like clip that it'll like clips like that
And then below that, just what it recommends would be a good short form clip. And it'll even give you a little score for how viral it thinks it will go or how well it will perform. And it gives you a full editor inside their app as well.
So you can basically fine tune things because AI is still pretty rough around the edges when it comes to automated clipping. And I usually don't recommend automated clipping software because it typically makes the clips. It doesn't include enough context a lot of the times.
It doesn't know when to start and stop. Yeah. But with this service, it's been great.
And it lets you schedule posts, automatically post to three different platforms I have going out now. And yeah, it's been great. But that is one thing I learned is that we're definitely leaving a lot of, what's the word?
I guess, accessibility to our channels on the table by not taking advantage of short form content. Now, the people viewing short form content and the people viewing long form content are two different groups of people for sure. But short form content will typically get more views because one person can go through way more shorts than videos at one time, like simultaneously.
So when you post short form content, odds are it gets way more views. And even if one or two people decide to go to your long form content, that's a win. Yeah.
Okay, cool. Sorry, I was trying to read some questions too at the same time. I'm trying to multitask here as well.
But there was a question there for you and I can't, where did it go? Because then I read another question and it took my brain away.
Scott says, great news. I'm adding two to three subscribers a day. Also great news.
I'm losing two to three subscribers a day.
Okay, Scott.
Let's see, I'm pressed I do both. Okay, great. Question, did vidIQ have any announcements for new features coming out?
Did you find any new vendors that you were planning on using going forward? No, I don't think vidIQ had a booth there, not that I saw. And so, no, I don't know about any new announcements of their stuff, but maybe they would announce that on their own channel.
Let's see. Okay, this one is... Let me see.
Actually, yeah, you might have fun answering this one, Liam. I can't imagine the sort of people that can be bothered to watch somebody else play in a game and spend hours and hours doing such a thing. But that's why we're all different.
Good luck to you. Here's the best part of that. I don't enjoy watching other people play games.
I don't do it. I don't watch streams really at all. I'll watch commentary streams.
I'll watch... There's a lot of political streamers on Twitch. I'll watch some of them sometimes.
And they'll talk about like global news, their takes on it, stuff like that. But no, I don't like watching other people play games. And I don't even see it as, I don't even hold them equal streaming and making videos.
When I'm streaming, it's more of a group chat where people can hang out and talk while I'm playing a game. I can talk to them. We talk about all sorts of things completely unrelated to the game.
No one is actually paying very close attention to my gameplay, and I prefer it that way because I'm typically not super great at video games anyway. So there's two types of streamers for video games. One is the entertaining streamer.
Two is the streamer that's good at video games. Those are the two successful paths you can take with streaming video games. And more often than not, people go for the entertaining route because it is easier.
essentially. It's easier to be funny than it is to be so good at a game, people actually want to watch you play it. It's a very rare thing.
So those are the two big types of video game streamers. And I am not in the category of being good at the game, not even close. In fact, I get more chatters talking about how bad I am at the game.
It's great for analytics, but it's more of a hangout session, essentially. Just people just kind of scrolling Twitch and they say hi or whatever. Yeah, it's just a time to chill out, hang out with other people.
So you said that normally when you stream, you've got your friends, you're hanging out. And I believe it's Discord that you hang out with your friends. And so you can hear each other talk as well.
But meanwhile, you're the one streaming it to Twitch. And that might... That makes you feel a certain way.
You're hanging out with your friends. But then you said that the other day when you streamed, you were not with your friends and it was just you. You kind of had to carry the conversation and your stream kind of blew up, like got magnitudes more views than you normally get.
And I think you said you streamed for like, what was it? Eight hours, 15, like a long, long, long time. 15, yeah.
What did that feel like? Because that's not normal for you. You were by yourself.
You weren't hanging out with your friends. Yeah, so I and everyone else on Twitch, by the way, handles chat differently than you do here on YouTube. With chat on Twitch, I read like one message comes in, I read it instantly.
It takes my attention immediately. And that's kind of just how the culture on Twitch works. People expect an answer right away.
But when you have a lot of chatters, it's very hard to keep up. And especially when you're trying to play a video game at the same time. So it gets to a point where I am just walking around in circles in World of Warcraft and literally just talking to people in my chat.
But it felt amazing. And there was never really a dull moment when you have that many viewers. And I think that is the hardest thing to do because you'll have this snowball effect.
So once you get a few viewers, you'll get more and more and more because you're having conversation in the chat and people want to join in that conversation in the chat. They can read the context of the conversation that's taking place. And I think that's the big difference between talking with friends in Discord versus talking to your chat is that.
when you're talking to friends in Discord, they don't have that historical context of what is even being talked about. So they've missed a lot of it, and they can't go back to look to join the conversation. On the other hand, if you're talking to chatters, if you're lucky enough to have chatters, other viewers can go and scroll up and look in the chat and see what has been said and what people are talking about, and they can add to the conversation based on what was said before they even got to the stream.
So I think that's a very big part of how the graph for viewers kind of goes like this. There's exponential growth there. But like I said before, the important thing is to literally never stop talking.
Don't stop talking. And that, I mean, so for 15 hours, I don't think I could do that. I did take a 20 minute dinner break.
Okay. But you left the stream on? Yeah, I went out to my living room and...
Yep. I just said BRB gamers. It just said text on it.
It was my chair and they were all talking to each other in the chat or whatever, just waiting for me to come back. And it was fine. Yeah.
Okay. Wow. Okay.
Interesting. And the other thing I found interesting about that, like, so when I look at my streams, like afterwards, I can see a graph of how many people were in, uh, you know, at any one time. And for me, usually It peaks at maybe an hour into it or 90 minutes into the live stream.
And then slowly it starts going down, down, down, down for as long as I stream. Sometimes I stream for two hours. Sometimes it's three hours or more.
But it tends to kind of fall down after about the one and a half hour mark. But when I saw it, you sent me yours. And it was just up, up, up, up.
And then I looked at the X axis. And I saw that 15 hours or eight hours, or I can't remember which one it was. And I was like, that must be awfully hard to leave knowing that you have the most people watching you that have been watching you for the last eight hours.
They're there now and you're going to leave. That must be hard. Very hard.
I mean, that is a big reason why I streamed for 15 hours. I wasn't going to turn it off with a hundred viewers sitting here waiting for me to be funny. I capitalized.
I streamed for as long as I could and it was 4 a .m. when I got off and I was like, wow, I cannot do this every day.
Oh my, yeah. So yeah, how productive were you the next day? Not, yeah.
But I think I did want to mention the chart you're talking about. So your chart kind of goes like this. It has a peak and then comes back down.
I think a lot of that has to do with the differences. Like our two streams, the only thing our streams have in common is that they are live streams. That's it.
With your stream, you have a very high level of production quality. You're essentially putting on a show here. And people tune into the show when they can and leave.
And I think you've built an audience that is a lot of the same people. For me, though, mine, I don't have a core audience like you do. I have like maybe, I want to say 10 people that will watch me when they can just to see me.
But other than that, it's, I'm... I'm streaming to people that have never tuned in before essentially all new viewers most of the time it's just a bunch of new viewers and I'm trying to grow and I am constantly talking to them as they talk to me and I think that explains why mine goes kind of straight up because the more viewers that are here in my in my stream the more I'm talking to them and the more other people want to chime in on the conversation right okay I would imagine I mean you hear you mentioned off the top that streaming to multiple platforms at once is something we should be doing.
That's probably hard. Like how would you, because if you interact differently with people on Twitch versus YouTube, like I guess one would have to be your main one and the other one you don't pay as much attention to. Like how would you handle that?
So there's tools around it. You can get tools that will give you a chat box that you can read and it will show the logo of the platform that the chatter is coming from. Okay.
So you can say, oh, like this person from Twitch says hello, this person from YouTube says hello, and you can do things that way. Getting alerts set up properly sounds like an absolute nightmare. I just didn't even bother on YouTube.
Getting alerts set up. But yeah, I don't have all the answers. I'm trying to learn all about that stuff myself.
And I got started by visiting the Rumble booth at VidSummit. And they gave me some helpful information about their platform. And it's interesting.
Rumble, I guess, is more of a YouTube competitor than a Twitch competitor. Whereas you have Kick, which is the big Twitch competitor. But ideally, you should be streaming everywhere you can.
Just , essentially. Oh, that's a neat way to put it. Make yourself unavoidable.
Just be in everybody's face. Catherine's asking you, so what is the objective of streaming on Twitch? Monetization or something else?
So I've been doing it for 10 years. And I got to a point where the objective is to have fun. That was my big thing.
I was a software developer for three years. I had my job. I was just doing it for fun.
I liked playing video games anyway. And it just added to it to be able to talk to other people who are interested in the same games as me and people that I have a lot in common with. And that's one thing that I do feel like I haven't, like going through university and everything, I met a lot of people interested in computers, but not...
The video game side of things so that's why I kind of had twitch as an outlet to meet new people But now that I'm taking things more seriously There are goals to achieve on Twitch for example for the those of you that may not be familiar Twitch's language is a little bit different a subscribe on Twitch if you were to sub sub sub to a channel You give them five dollars a month essentially and you get no ads on their stream access to their emotes So that's like special emojis specifically curated for one streamer that you can use site -wide and there's a few other perks as well and Then following is like YouTube's subscribe essentially, but if you reach affiliate, which is averaging I believe Only five viewers, averaging five viewers over one month.
You unlock the subscribe feature where people can subscribe to you and you get 50%. So I get $2 .5 for every $5 that's given to me through a subscribe or whatever. But you can go beyond that to partner, which is you get a lot more emotes.
You get extra collab opportunities with other companies. That's the goal I'm trying to get to right now. And you can also, if you really go up there with your subscriber count, I think if you hit 100 subscribers and hold that for three months, you will get a better split on how much money you get from...
those subscriptions. So it's 50 -50 starting out and you can push it up to 60 -40 and then if you really get up there you can get to 70 -30 where you make 70 % of the money given to you through Twitch. So those are just some smaller goals if it's something that you wanted to actually make money at.
That has only just recently become a big goal. I mean of course I always wanted that to be a thing but it just didn't seem super realistic up until I started to take things more seriously. Right.
Right. And somebody, I forget who asked it, but I saw it maybe 30 minutes ago or so in the chat. Somebody asked if you are a Twitch partner.
So I'm a Twitch affiliate. So there's affiliate and then above that is partner. Okay.
So I'm an affiliate in the sense that I can, you can subscribe to my channel and you can have access to my emotes and a lot of those things. But partner, you need to average, I believe it's 75 viewers. for one month, and mine has been all over the place.
I had that huge stream, which was a really unfortunate time because it was right before I left. So I went a week without streaming. And I went live last night, and I think I averaged maybe 10 viewers.
So big change there. But I'm not going to let that get me down. I'm just going to keep doing it for fun, trying to apply what I've learned from VidSummit, as well as...
just what I've learned from blowing up a little bit myself, just looking at, like, analyzing it, what I did right, what I did wrong, and how I can improve the next stream. But I also, like, I'm not super interested in, like, taking it so seriously that it actually feels like a job, because then, like, that's not really the dream, is it?
If it feels like a job, just go get a job. Like, this is too stressful for something you're only doing for money. It takes too much time, too.
Uh, I just, I popped a message up on the screen here. Jen says, Scott, like I said, who's teaching who I didn't see the earlier messages, but, uh, yeah, I learned a lot of my stuff from Liam, Jen and everybody. Um, as I said before, he's been into YouTube far longer, like five years before I got into it.
And, uh, so he helped me get, get started and, uh, yeah, he's, uh, he's my tech guy. These days, you are much more knowledgeable on YouTube than I am. I think a lot of these Twitch questions, though, you might not know a whole lot about.
You haven't experimented a whole lot with Twitch. By the way, you have a Prime sub. You should probably use that for me.
Oh, yeah. What is that again? That's right.
I used to do that monthly for you, and now I forget what that even is. So for everyone who's watching, I'm talking directly to you guys and my father. Here we go.
If you have Amazon Prime... You have the ability. So Amazon owns Twitch.
So by default, you should either have a Twitch account or be able to make one pretty easily. You have a free Prime subscription, which means just by having Amazon Prime for your deliveries and whatnot, you can subscribe for free to any creator. And I still would get money for that.
So if you'd like to subscribe, twitch .tv slash Liam A6. Little shout out there. There you go.
If you're not doing anything with that, you know. That's right. Gotta pay rent.
I think it's been a couple of years since I used that for you. And that's what? You would earn $2 .50 off of me every month if I had been doing that?
That's right. Yeah, well, I took you to Dallas, all right? This is true.
Yeah, no, you don't owe me anything. I actually have a lot of paying back to do for you once I get all big and famous. That's right.
But no, I will do that because I don't subscribe to anybody else on Twitch. There you go. But I forget because I'm not in Twitch.
I literally have only ever gone on Twitch. Well, I think you set me up with an account before I even started YouTube just to kind of teach me what live streaming was all about, but I've never done anything with it. I mean, Twitch is so easy to go live on.
I genuinely think you should multi -stream. Yeah. Well, maybe.
Well, YouTube is the hard part, and you're doing that anyway. Twitch. Like Twitch, it makes it so much easier.
Basically, if you go to your Twitch page and you're live, it just shows your life right there. Like you don't make a video. You don't have to add any metadata or anything like that.
No description. You just go live. That's all there is to it.
So the only issue, I guess, and you already have all your notifications and stuff. You manage all that manually anyway. So the only thing you'd have to worry about is two chats.
And combining two chats into one window, that's easy. Yeah. Yeah, I think my issue would be I wouldn't be able to use Ecamm, which is what I use right now, so I'd probably have to use...
I would have to use a browser -based system like StreamYard because my upload connection isn't very good, right? I think I can stream to two places because... So my upload connection is 15 megabits per second.
And I think I did the math once. I need at least six, preferably a little bit more, up to 10 megabits per second to stream, to live stream to somewhere, to YouTube. If I wanted to live stream to YouTube and Twitch, I'd have to double that or reduce my 1080p down to 720p or something.
You know, the quality wouldn't be as good. But the alternative, the workaround there is either get a better internet connection, which is not an option for me, or use something like StreamYard that you just stream to StreamYard. And then from StreamYard, it sends it out to all the different places.
Yeah, maybe not quite as easy as I thought. That could be difficult. But I like the way you think.
That's something definitely to keep in mind. Got to capitalize. Make yourself unavoidable.
Let me see if, let me just take a look at the chat here. So again, I'm typing in QQQ and seeing what other questions are here and I'll pop some on the screen. I apologize, we're not getting to all of the questions today, but another one here is, was there any other changes with YouTube that you found out about?
I do have some notes that I took and I will mention some of them now quickly. So, I've got I created a notes like I've got one file a note in my notes app and I've just taken notes on my phone when I was in these these Speaking sessions and So dynamic thumbnails is something that's coming and you may have seen videos about it It was announced before vid summit, but I haven't talked about it yet I don't 100 % know exactly what it's all about.
But but basically you're gonna have the ability to send different thumbnails to one group of people versus another group of people, whether that's location -specific, language -specific, maybe even demographic -specific. I don't 100 % know, but that's something that's coming to YouTube, dynamic thumbnails.
Is that the way you understood that one, Liam, or did you hear about that one? Can you repeat that? So dynamic thumbnails coming to YouTube.
So right now... With YouTube you can upload a thumbnail with a video you also have the ability to do a be thumbnail testing where you can upload Two or three thumbnails and it'll tell you which one is the best base based on the watch hours Well, there's a new thing that's coming out is called dynamic thumbnails meaning you can upload now again, this is where I get a little fuzzy on exactly how you're gonna be able to do this, but the way I'm imagining it is, you can upload, let's say, a thumbnail for everybody viewing from North America, a different thumbnail for European viewers, Australian viewers, or maybe a different thumbnail for Spanish -speaking viewers, right?
You're going to be able to, so YouTube will know who's watching and they will serve them the appropriate thumbnail. That's my understanding of how that's going to work. Yeah, and that's what I got from it too.
And another thing as well is I think that's not the only thing they're doing in terms of offering dynamic content for different places. I think I also heard, I can't remember who said it, but ads like inserts, collab inserts that you may put into your own videos, your own editing. You can have different inserts.
based on where the video is being shown so you can upload different either different versions of your video or maybe it's built it'll be built into youtube's editor where you just plop it in right into a certain spot yeah but they'll allow you to basically if you want to advertise amazon to the us and advertise um i don't know 7 -eleven to canada or something like that you can do that or you will be able to yeah By the way they explained it, they said it's being worked on, I think.
Yeah. So it's not something you can do now, and it might not even be in the near future, but being worked on. So I think on top of dynamic thumbnails, a lot of things are going to become a little more dynamic based on where the content is being shown, which offers a ton of more opportunity for creators to be able to take full advantage of their viewers.
Yeah. Like of the set of eyes that they have, right? Based on where they're coming from and what...
like products or services could be more valuable to them based on where they live. Right, right. So that was one.
Another one was custom feeds. So with that one, my understanding is, so a lot of people, you know, you get fed videos basically by the YouTube algorithm, right? When you open up YouTube, it decides what thumbnails you're going to see.
To a certain extent, again, my understanding is that, you're going to be able to customize your feed a little bit more. You're going to have a little bit more say in what types of videos are going to show up in your feed.
Is that the way you understand it too? I don't know if I could say much more than that because that's all I really know about it. I literally forgot all about that, but that is what they said.
And I remember thinking a lot about it though. I think what they're trying to do is like right now, the algorithm is this like mysterious puppet master controlling everything and everyone's trying to do things for the algorithm. And I think what they're trying to do is put the control back into the viewer's hands the way it used to be.
So like when you subscribed to a channel that got added to your subscription feed and that was your main page on YouTube. So you would scroll through your YouTube, see what everyone you have subscribed. to is doing and you've exactly curated the type of content you want to see which like in my head it sounds perfect so the fact they've changed it all completely is kind of crazy to me but I'm sure they had their math heavy reasons of doing that but now what they're going to do is let you create your own feed and basically give control back to the viewer to curate their own content that they want to see and then apply the algorithm to it So they'll be able to collect the data of what you are adding to your feed and then use that data on the algorithm to pull more new content that they've never seen before and offer them that.
So it's going to be a trade -off, right? So more control for the viewer to be able to have all their stuff that they want to see. And then for them, they get to know more about you, about what you like, what you dislike, things like that so they can give you the best content possible.
Right. Okay. Yeah, you're right.
It almost seems like they used to do that, and then they made some changes, and now they're kind of going a little bit back towards that. But I guess... Full circle.
Yeah. I think most of the changes they made, as you guys probably know, if you subscribe to somebody, that doesn't necessarily mean you're going to see all their videos. what's going to decide what videos you watch is what videos you have watched and what YouTube is learning about you.
And the whole idea is YouTube wants to maximize their success at matching viewers to videos and thus increasing watch hours. That's what they want. The more watch hours they can produce, the more ads they can sell.
Yeah, but there's been a lot of complaints, I think maybe, that people say, hey, I was subscribed to this person and now I don't see their videos anymore and I know they still make videos. What's up? And I think the answer has been, well, you've been watching a whole lot of other stuff too and there's just no room to show you everything.
We just want to show you stuff that we know you're going to watch. Yeah. And another thing I want to add to that is that a service like YouTube, as big as they are, Everything you do on YouTube, you're answering a question for them.
All YouTube service is, is a huge option, a huge array of questions where your mouse goes. They have heat maps for that so they can tell where you're clicking, where you're looking first, things like that. But whenever you click on a video and then you leave it 30 seconds in, you've answered a question.
They've collected that data and they will never stop trying to getting. trying to get more data. You would think like, geez, they probably get enough data based on everything I'm doing on their platform.
But you got to remember, humans aren't looking at this data and parsing it. It's robots. It's computers.
It's AI. AI works more accurately the more context you give it. And there's really, realistically, there's no limit to it, or at least not in this application.
The more that you can tell their algorithm what you like and don't like and how you interact with videos, what videos you watch all the way through, where you stop watching, things like that. They take all of that and they want more to give you better content, things that will keep you watching and spend more time on their platform essentially, which is a great thing for creators.
Slightly concerned if you're worried about your screen time. But you just got to remember. That's how these services work.
They're so advanced that everything you are doing in YouTube is . It applies it to the algorithm. And that's essentially how this entire thing works.
It's all a big data game. Yeah. Yeah, big data game.
Yeah, that's true. I like that, the way you said, every time you're doing something on, like, when you stop watching a video, when you move your mouse across a thumbnail, every single action you do, you're answering a question for YouTube. And that's a new data point that they've just collected.
Yeah. Good way to look at it. Let's see, what else did we learn?
So I wrote down a quote that Roberto Blake said that I really liked. As much as you want to be seen, so does your audience.
I thought that was kind of cool. The idea, I think he was talking about live streaming at the time. Like, don't just live stream for yourself.
Like, involve your audience, whether it means collaborate with people or whatever, answering questions, comments, putting comments up on screen, things like that. So I kind of like that quote.
Let's see. He was encouraging us to build a show. Now, I've seen videos on this before, and I haven't made any videos on this yet.
In fact, I need to get a little bit more into it, but YouTube recently created this new thing, this new tab called Shows, which are essentially, again, my understanding, they're essentially like playlists. But they're trying to model it more around like what Netflix does and trying to make things easier to show up on TVs so that, for example, a creator can start creating episodes within seasons and you can organize it all that way under the shows tab.
So I think YouTube is moving more and more towards that. Is that what you heard as well? That's what it seemed like to me.
Yeah, they want to start being more aggressive in the competition with the streaming platforms like Netflix and Hulu and all those. Yeah. Another one I wanted, actually, this one is a big one.
Video A -B testing. Video A -B testing. So there's already A -B testing available for thumbnails.
You can upload up to three thumbnails with your video if you want to test which one does better. There's A -B testing with titles. You can have three different titles if you want, see which one's better.
But they're going to come out with video A -B testing. And I was trying to wrap my head around this. Like, what does this actually mean?
Like, I can upload. Does this mean I'm going to have to create two completely separate videos now in order to see which one was better? Like, to me, that just seems like a lot of work.
And then I actually watched a video by, you know, MKBHD, right? You know him. Yeah, so.
You're grinning. Couldn't he have picked an easier name to say? I know he's super huge and popular, but I just find that hard to say.
He started as a kid. What's that? He started as a kid.
He just smacked his keyboard and said, yeah, that's my username. Is that what he did? What does it mean?
What do those letters mean? So I haven't watched a whole lot about him. So there might be a reason behind it.
I don't know. But I do know that that has always been his username. I'm pretty sure.
And he started basically any new tech he got. He just filmed himself opening it and talking about it. Yeah.
And he was quite young when he started. But you do see a lot of creators with names with like all sorts of numbers in them and things like that. Just like not really business minded or branding minded names.
Just completely random stuff. Like a good example is a big streamer, XQC. Just three random letters.
I think I think there's a bunch of act like other letters and stuff in there but they call it excuse II and It just it kind of like brings you back down to earth a little bit It's like some of these channels started so unseriously And then blew up into something where it's just like well, that's my name now, I guess yeah now that's that's my job now But anyways, I like his videos I like his videos tech review stuff typically, but he made a video on this video a be testing And now don't quote don't quote me on this because I just kind of what I wasn't taking notes or anything But I seem to recall him not liking this video a be testing idea and I think the way he explained it to me is that you're gonna be able to to Yes, upload two different videos But the idea is you can swap out a section of a video with a new section Like maybe you have a different intro that you want to test which intro did better but that like what does that does that mean?
You know, when YouTube shows a video, right, that you can click on to watch, like, I think it might have to be the exact same length. So if you swap out a 30 -second part, you're going to have to put another 30 -second part in. It can't be 31 seconds.
Again, I don't know if that's actually true. That might have been him wondering if that's what it's going to be as well. But I don't know.
To me, it sounds like a lot of work. Instead, you could just upload your video. If you don't think it did well, then, you know, do better in your next one, right?
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's something I would take advantage of.
Did you hear anything different or what are your thoughts on it? I do want to speak on that a little bit. So I don't even remember hearing about the AV video testing.
I'm not sure if that was in a talk that maybe you went to that I didn't. There was a couple of days where you were up and at them bright and early and I chose to sleep in a little bit. But...
To me, in my head, it sounds like the perfect move for YouTube. You have to remember, YouTube does not pay their creators for the work. They don't pay creators for hours worked.
They pay creators for performance, how well the video performs. If they can give you more tools to make your videos perform better, they really don't care if it means a lot more work for you. That's not something that bothers them in the slightest.
So it kind of sucks for creators because now there's going to be... like a lot more work that you have to do to make sure you're completely taking advantage of all the tools that are available to you. This sounds like the sort of thing that if you're serious about YouTube, you need to be taking advantage of.
And on top of that, a good example is thumbnail A -B testing and title A -B testing. There's no reason why you should not be doing thumbnail A -B testing. Even though it's more work, you need to create a whole other thumbnail.
And for a lot of people like myself, I put a lot of time into my thumbnails. I don't use AI or anything. But it's a lot of work coming up with a good thumbnail.
doing it up in Photoshop. Like I take the pictures myself with my camera of the device that I'm reviewing. And then I use Photoshop to make it look pretty and add text and whatever.
And it's a lot of extra work, but it's something that you need to be doing to take full advantage of the tools that are at your disposal. And this just sounds like an extension of that. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
Yeah. And your point of the more tools they give you, they don't care how much time you have to spend to make a good video. I guess I'm in the camp of there are so many tools that are provided to us.
I don't necessarily think we have to use them all. I guess if we have time, we can. And if there's something seriously not working, then maybe we look at another tool that might help us with that thing.
But like title and thumbnail A -B testing, for example, I've tried them. I've done them like over a year ago, but I've stopped. I don't do them anymore.
I guess maybe I... feel like I've learned what I needed to learn from it. Like not saying my thumbnails are perfect because they're not, but yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. I just, there's a trade -off, right? Spend a whole lot more work for maybe a little bit of gain or, you know, just post it and start working on your next video.
One thing I do want to say about that is like, while all those tools are available and it probably is technically. Like mathematically speaking it is the smart thing to do to fully utilize all of those tools I've watched a couple videos on them actually talking about how you're essentially leaving views on the table if you aren't using the a be testing features yeah, but like What's more important is consistently posting period if this is something that you're worried about like oh geez That sounds like a lot of work.
I'm not gonna do anything Don't do that like make sure like post anything like don't worry about all the tools that you may or may not want to be using uh what's most important is that you just post uh it brings me back i've you know gotten to the gym a little bit at the start of the year and what you're doing in the gym what muscles you're hitting whatever um it's fun to kind of dive down that rabbit hole but what's most important is getting up and going just doing it It's like that first step is the hardest thing.
Everything else can come later. You can choose to optimize things, make things more efficient, whatever, if you want to. But what's most important is consistently doing it, consistently posting.
However is easiest for you at the start. If you have been consistently posting and you're not seeing the results you want to be seeing, that's when you start thinking about utilizing these tools. Dude, you sound like a YouTube coach.
Maybe someday.
I see two comments here from Catherine. I want to read them both. The older you get, the earlier you get up.
Speaking from experience, and that's true, I was always up before Liam in Dallas, and by the time, oh gosh, by the time 11 p .m. rolls around, I'm a zombie, and I think Liam's still raring to go.
And her other comment was, I think the amount of tools one uses directly correlates to age as well. Also speaking from experience. That could very well be.
All right. Let me just see. So there were a couple of auto -dubbing live streams.
I don't know if you heard that one. That was something that Daryl Eves mentioned. So I don't know.
I don't think it's available yet, but they're going to be auto -dubbing live streams. So while I'm talking like this, while Liam and I are talking. If you, you know, don't speak English and you're watching and you would want to listen to this in your language, that's going to be an option for you for live streams as well as like they already do that to a certain extent.
I don't know if they do it everywhere, but to a certain extent, they already transcribe, translate and make available in the captions videos, but not live streams. Live streams mean it has to be translated like on the spot. So maybe there's a bit of a delay.
But yeah, that apparently is coming. Interesting. And I'm wondering how they're going to do that.
Like the transcription issue, like being able to transcribe videos, you know this probably better than anyone. It's a solved issue. Like it's not something that humans need to be involved in in the slightest anymore.
Aside from, you know, weird lingo things and stuff like that. But I'm wondering about the live. So the delay will be like negligible probably.
with the technology they have. The bigger thing is computation power and who they're going to afford that computation power to. So we could see something where people with a certain subscriber count are prioritized for something like that.
I'm not really sure how much computation power. I assume AI will have some part in it, and AI credits can be expensive. So I'm just wondering how they're going to do it.
get rid of delay by taking advantage of the already existing stream delay. So maybe if your stream hits their server first, they start the transcription before they even send the stream signal back to someone else's computer. You know what I mean?
So you can basically start translating at... So let's say there's a 30 -second delay for the stream. It takes 30 seconds to go from what I'm saying in real life to hitting someone else's computer.
At the 15 -second mark, once it gets to the YouTube servers, they can start the transcription. So they have 15 seconds buffer in order to... do those calculations and send them back with the stream signal to the computer.
I hadn't thought of that. So yeah, because they already have a technical. Yeah.
Yeah. Sorry to get too deep into it. Software developer brain there.
That's totally fine. All right. So real quick.
So what else we got here?
So there's a couple of books I want to pick up. and read, both suggested by Nick Nimmin. One is Sponsor Magnet book by Justin Moore, Sponsor Magnet.
Again, I'm not recommending it, but it's something that was recommended and I'm going to take a look at that. And also the Superfans book by Pat Flynn. There was something else about Pat Flynn that I wanted to look at.
I forget what that was. Oh, Pocket Monster. You know what that is, Liam?
I do. So, So and this was something that Daryl Eves talked about talked about Pat Flynn if you guys Aren't aware of him very successful on YouTube got really successful with Pokemon Again, I've never watched that that part of what he does but I think that's what made him the most popular and He makes two plus hour videos not live streams videos And anyways, he's great at storytelling.
And I just, I made myself a note to check that out to see how he does that. Do you want to elaborate at all, Liam, on Pocket Monster and what he actually does with his channel? So I don't know a whole lot about him, but he belonged, like currently the content he does right now is very popular.
And he essentially opens packs of Pokemon cards. I actually, I did that very thing on my stream. So I got quite a few Pokemon cards here.
but essentially opening pokemon cards it's it's almost like gambling a little bit in a way Like, there are cards worth a ton of money, and there's a chance to get them when you open a pack. So it's not a new thing.
People have done this for a long time now on Twitch. Actually, a lot of it started with Counter -Strike. In Counter -Strike, you can buy what's called a case and open it to see gun skins.
So it's different paint jobs for your guns in the game. And some are worth a ton of money, which can be resold for real money. So there's a whole stock market for those skins and everything, the same way that there's a stock market for Pokemon cards.
But that's kind of why it grasped. so much attention is that when you open a really good one, that video just automatically does well. Okay.
Like by default, it's like, oh my God, he opened this card. There's a one in however many thousand chance of getting this card. And it's such a huge deal.
But I think you know a little bit more about Pocket Monster than I do because he did something different starting out. He was a YouTube coach, wasn't he? And then he...
I can't remember who I was talking to about this, but I was talking to someone at the summit about it. And I guess he did YouTube coaching and then he just like went off and just started a whole new channel because a lot of people were accusing him basically saying like, it's so easy for you now because you're so big, you got lucky.
And he wanted to say, well, no, I'll do it again. And so he just started opening Pokemon cards and blew up again. Okay.
Okay. All right. Yeah.
No, I don't know much more about that, about him than what I've said. And that's why I wrote down the note. I want to check him out.
I've seen him before. I've seen his. I thought he started with Pokemon and then became a YouTube coach or investing coach or something like that.
Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. This is just word of mouth that I heard at the summit.
I didn't actually know a whole lot. The only thing I really know about him is that he opens Pokemon cards and I know about Pokemon cards. Okay, very good.
About it. Yeah. All right.
Let's dive into the chat again. Let me just see if I've got any other questions here. Let's see.
Liam, do you still code? And if you do, what is your language that you code with? So currently, no.
I've been in like full content creator mode right now. I'm actually, I am looking for software development work at the moment. But what I did code in was I used Vue 3 TypeScript on a Java backend along with Postgres, MSSQL, and we were doing a big transition from a Java, like a legacy Java backend to handle the databases and stuff, over to Go.
And if you've ever used Go before, it is a syntactical nightmare. I do not like that language very much, but I was using it. But I personally prefer frontend stuff, so I like, my favorite thing ever is UI, UX design.
I love design, and I think that's why I have so much fun with editing. videos and making content is because you have full control over all that stuff, the design and how things look and feel and things like that. And so I think that's why that's a Pretty good match for me and why I like to do it as a hobby.
But no, no, I have not been coding. I do have a GitHub page, though. If you check out my Twitch, you should see my GitHub in the social section of my Twitch.
If you want to check out some of my projects, it's all open source. Probably not the most impressive code ever. A lot of it's from my university days, but it's up there.
And there's a link to Liam's Twitch and his YouTube channel in the description below if you guys want to check it out. Both are just this username you see right here. If you just twitch .tv slash Liam A6 and YouTube slash at Liam A6.
What does Liam A6 mean again? I don't remember. Liam is the name you gave me at birth.
A is the first letter of the middle name you gave me at birth. And six is my favorite number. There you go.
Perfect. Makes perfect sense. and for the record i've told liam in the past you should change your avatar you should have a picture of your face uh your your name should be like just make it well i guess your name is in there so that's fine um but uh hey there's there's more than one way i don't want peanut to hear this is more and more than one way to skin a cat right that's right i do think that's funny um A lot of people actually at VidSummit were telling me for my thumbnails, I should use my face more just to build that like brand recognition sort of thing.
And I think I am going to start doing that. But I really like having the theme of one of my favorite shows of all time, Adventure Time, as a part of my channel theme. A big part of it is on streaming.
People will click in just because I like the show that they like. It's just an instant connection that like. We have that in common.
We can talk. Right. So like for you, that could be, if you weren't, you know, as big and famous as you are these days, the lion's hat.
If your picture has a lion's hat in it, you're expressing yourself through that. And someone can see that and go, I like football. I love the lions.
I'm going to tune into this guy's stream and we can talk about it. Yeah. But you, you also would have your face in it because it's a hat, but you know, yeah, there's the, okay.
So I do need to explain this profile picture. I was going to ask you if you do that. Yeah.
Yeah. So a lot of people watching my videos like to make fun of me, but in a funny way. We're all laughing together.
I don't, you know, tough skin out here, but they say I look like the CEO of Bethesda. I forget his name already. It was Todd, wasn't it?
Shoot. Todd Howard. Todd Howard.
That's who it is, yeah. Gamers call him God Howard. Because they really want him to make the new Elder Scrolls game.
But if you've ever played Skyrim, if you've ever watched the Fallout series on Netflix, it's also a game. Yeah, he did all that. And they say I look like him.
And so I made a little funny bit in one of my videos talking about how you really wanted me to change my profile picture. And so I photoshopped Todd Howard's face onto my existing profile picture, thought it was hilarious, and shipped it. There he is, Todd Howard.
I just put him on. Is that the right guy? And what's funny is, oh, wait, I don't see your screen yet.
There's a bit of a delay. Oh, okay. It'll show up shortly.
I'm sure you found it. He's not a hard guy to find. Yeah, that's him.
It's the eyes. It's the eyes. The close together eyes.
I get that a lot. My favorite comment to date on one of my videos is your face could fit on a coin. Such a good comment.
It's just the creativity, you know, but you see creators like I don't know if you ever heard of K so I saw someone mention him in the chat his whole thing is like deprecating jokes like things that like people making fun of him and He reacts to it and everyone laughs and they love him for it. It's great So, you know, you gotta steer into the skier and steer into the skid kind of thing, you know, who is this again?
K so K so he's a he's a bigger fella that plays games on Twitch Okay. And people essentially make fun of his weight.
That's the whole thing. But they find these really creative jokes about his weight. Okay.
Like just like really outside the box stuff. And it makes for really funny clips. Okay.
And he's doing all right, by the way. No, it's not a bullying thing. He's doing just fine.
Okay. He's making his bag. He's wiping away the tears with his $100 bills.
All right. Well, good for him. He'll be all right.
Yeah. He's cracked the code. He's steering into it.
It's part of his brand at this point. Bernard says, looks somewhat similar, you and Todd. You can see it?
Okay. Yep. It's not the face that I...
Sorry? No, go ahead. Someone actually said the face that I put on the avatar for my profile picture, I mentioned it in another video, and they said, all this time, I thought that was your face.
They thought I used my own face. Russ, Russ Rocking, oh, trains and stuff, says, when I was in college in the mid -80s, I learned COBOL, FORTRAN, and Pascal, all outdated now. Did you have to learn any of those programs?
No. No. No, those are nightmarish languages.
You have a lot of control over the computer when you use languages like that. And if you know languages like that, you can get a job. I do not.
So I'm out here still looking. But a lot of banks still use COBOL. And so they're willing to pay you 200K a year if you know COBOL.
But it's very complex. There's different levels of programming language. High level is considered something that's closest, like close to English.
So Python would be considered a high level language because pretty much anyone can read the language and understand it to an extent. Whereas something like Fortran is more computer language. So it's less close to English and a lot harder to understand just by looking at it.
So you need to be a very skilled developer to use those languages. It's pretty impressive. I knew we were going to get here eventually, but Mitch in his van just said, coding will all be done by AI.
Coders will be out of work, right? I guess that's the question. You're talking to one right now.
It makes, it's the trouble with it. And this is why I want to, I want to leave the programming industry. I used to love programming.
I thought it was the coolest thing ever. And for me, watching a robot do it, like magnitudes. more efficiently, faster, better.
I don't feel like my skills are needed in that field at all. I think one, like the problem is you'd have one senior developer or multiple, and then a lot more junior or mid -level developers. And those junior and mid -level developer roles are disappearing because one good developer with a great AI plan Claude Code, for example, will code circles around an entire group of junior and mid -tier developers.
I'm at that mid -tier right now, and I didn't get to that senior role fast enough, I don't think. And it just doesn't make sense. There's going to be issues when those senior developers are done working and they've trained nobody.
There will be demand for it again. It will just happen. But right now it's just a really bad time to be a junior or mid -level developer, I think.
And I don't really want anything to do with it. I'm kind of looking more down the hardware route now, like IT support, something that I can actually have conversations with real people in real life would be nice because I did a lot of remote work. But helping people with their physical hardware problems, I don't see AI really stepping on my toes there.
But ideally, content creation. I love making content and I wasn't feeling super... creatively fulfilled like i felt like i uh i needed a creative outlet while i was coding because i couldn't do it there a lot of it wasn't the design and things like that that i enjoy so my creative outlet for the longest time was making videos and doing twitch and if that could be my job man that would be it'd be made um another question here uh along the same lines uh steve says how will they have senior developers without junior developers i know they can do it right now but I don't know, five years from now, 10 years from now, how are they going to have senior development?
Like eventually today's senior developers are going to retire. Then what? Yep.
There's going to be a huge rise in software developer hiring. And what they're going to be looking for is people that have built out a portfolio themselves and have proven their skills, not necessarily even with like a degree. Quite frankly, degrees aren't as important in software development as...
as you know they would be for other fields because people want to see that you can actually apply these things like software development is almost closer to a trade than your standard uh job you would get with a degree um so it's just it's going to be really interesting because there's it's kind of going like straight up like this productivity is going through the roof but once that transition happens where the senior developers are done and all these ai robots they they need an overlord essentially to tell them exactly what to do and how to do it you're going to be looking at um like architecture professionals that can manage a large group of software developers and have that understanding of programming to tell them what exactly to do to the T.
Because when you leave any sort of room for guessing when it comes to AI, you will have problems. Yeah. Yeah.
And one thing I heard recently is that a lot of developers today are almost becoming babysitters of AI. Does that make sense to you?
Yeah. So those senior software developers that were a company's best programmer is now becoming a company's head of software. They are a manager.
And what you do, in the field, they're called agents. So you have multiple AI agents. You tell one to go design a front -end user interface.
You tell one to do a database migration. Sorry. You tell another one to do, oh, I don't know, rebranding somewhere else.
You have them all with their different tasks and you give them all a huge list of... basically a massive prompt telling them what their role is. You are the front -end developer, your responsibilities are this, this, this, and this.
It's a lot of just engineering the perfect team of robots, is what these senior developers will now be doing. A complete shift of responsibilities, but you need someone who has that programming understanding and background to be able to have an effective control over all of these robots, essentially. Right.
Something Anaholics just said, he said, AI is self -learning, right? Nobody tells stockfish how to play chess. So along those lines, like what, you know, we've heard this in the news recently, like AI becoming self -learning, like teaching itself how to be better.
Do you see a day in which AI doesn't need somebody overlooking it, what it's doing? So there's already a few. There's already a few red flags.
So red flag number one on that note, Claude. There is no line of code in Claude that wasn't written by AI. It is fully AI made at this point.
Everything in it, like it started obviously from people working on it. Now it is all AI generated. So everything that Claude is made of was made by Claude.
Okay. Which is just crazy to think about. Yeah.
Another thing is... Experimenting so AI researchers have experimented with having two models communicate with one another and they abandoned English They abandoned all human speaking languages for a more efficient language to communicate with each other more efficiently So if we were going to be looking at some sort of AI global takeover you would essentially have these AI robots speaking in a language completely foreign to humans because they develop a language that's more efficient.
Like there are so many inefficiencies in the English language and every language for that matter. A good example of this is, you know, the typical QWERTY keyboard, how the keys are all laid out this way. This is nowhere near the most efficient way to have keys on a keyboard to send letters, signals to a computer.
And there are far more better and more efficient ways to do it, but it just hasn't been popularized, right? So for the same reasons, we're speaking English because learning a new language, A, is hard.
Developing a language is really hard, but robots can do it like this. So they made their own language to communicate with each other. And now you have robots that you're worried about taking over the world and you don't understand them.
Kind of scary. Yeah, kind of scary. I don't know.
I kind of like the way you use the word robot. Like everyone uses the term AI and AI this, AI that, AI agents. You're just calling them robots.
AI is just splattered all over the place, and I don't know. I just like to mix up the lingo a little bit, but they're essentially software robots. Yeah, no, that's good.
Let's see. Okay, here we go. Here's a question for you, Liam, from Carolyn.
It says, off topic, but it's something I'd like to know. Liam, how do you create the pink, blue, and purple lighting in your room? Oh, yeah, I can definitely answer that.
I have two key lights back there, right kind of underneath my bed. I have one blue and one green, and it kind of creates this bluish green gradient. And then I stole that taller light here from my dad, and that just does pink.
And I actually, I'm glad you asked about this, I have smart plugs hooked up to them, and I wrote... an API running on my server in my apartment so that if I press a button on my computer right here I can actually hit one button and turn them off. So I send a signal to my server computer that server computer sends a signal to each plug back there and tells it to toggle on or off so I can just hit a button so this is with my stream deck is where I have the buttons and I just have some basic smart plugs back there to do all of that, but it kind of creates this blurry gradient and It's all blurry.
You have this bokeh effect from my lens. It has a low f -stop. So it goes down to 1 .4 My dad actually put me on this lens.
I think it's the same one you're using right the four point one point. Yes Yeah, the Sigma lens. Yeah.
Yeah, so it makes things really blurry I'm gonna show off my energy drink here the further distance so when you bring this if you get something really close to the lens and there's a huge distance between the background and the Subject you will get a greater effect of blur. So if I get even closer, you'll see the background will get even blurrier And that's kind of how that works.
But that effect kind of gives you that blurry lit background sort of effect that I go for for my streams and for YouTube videos. Right, right. I've mentioned this before too.
When I tell people they can start a YouTube channel with minimal gear, just use your phone, maybe spend 20 bucks on a selfie stick and 100 bucks on a good mic. That's really all you need. And the amount of money I've spent over the years on stuff that I no longer use, but that I thought I needed, that pink light was one of them.
I love it when you buy stuff you don't need. Yeah. It's great.
I know you do. I know you do. Your room is like a graveyard of all the stuff I started with.
You're looking at like that light up there, like this thing here. Yeah. That was yours.
Yeah. It's great. Now the lens you have is because that was a Christmas gift because I love mine so much.
I use the same one right here. Yeah. Great lens.
Yeah. So anyways, yeah, there you go. Off topic a bit.
Jen says, so I don't think I'll bother with the colored lights. You absolutely don't need to know how to program to get that all working. I was, I'm, I'm using equipment that my dad just kind of gives to me.
So I just hack things together to make it work. If you like are calculated with what you buy respectfully, sorry to diss you here a little bit, dad, but if you. Do a little bit of research before you click that buy button.
You can get lights that you can hook up to like your phone easily and just hit a button and turn them on and off. This one I think will only, is this only pink or can you change the color of that? Oh, that can be multicolor.
It can change colors like dynamically too. And I think it comes with an app. Isn't that by Govee?
I want to say Govee. Oh, that's what it is too. You're right.
Yeah, you're right. So it comes with an app, free app on your phone and you can press a button on your phone, but you wanted to press a button on your stream deck. That's right.
So you wrote a program. I just like to be different. Yeah.
Let's see. What else we got in the chat here?
Let's see. Regarding the AI talking with each other, someone tested in a hotel where the AIs ended up talking with each other using sound beeps. That's interesting.
Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. I mean, the thought of them creating them, the thought of the...
robots creating their own language so that they can be more efficient. That makes total sense. It's not something I ever thought about.
Yeah. Actually, that reminds me. I wanted to share something kind of on the same topic.
It doesn't really have to do with AI, but there's this hacking technique that I recently saw. You're going to teach us how to hack now? Sorry to interrupt.
No, I don't even know how to. I can only explain how it works. I can't begin to explain how to actually figure this out.
I guess whenever you speak or whenever there's a sound in a room, the walls vibrate a little. Not much at all, but a tiny bit. And specifically, the windows will vibrate more than anything else.
They were able to use an infrared light, point it at a window, and basically measure the frequency to listen to people speak in the room that they're in. So from like, however far away the infrared light can reach, the light hits the window and bounces back to a receiver. It scans the frequency of vibrations, assigns language to it so it can tell what they're saying and play it out digitally in their ears.
And that's not the coolest part. They were able to decipher. which key is being pressed on a keyboard in that room to essentially perform a key logging attack, which is when you log the keystrokes that someone plugs into a computer and you can pull passwords.
Oh. Just by shining a light off their window, listening to the differences in sound for each key typed on the keyboard. And you can do that by, there's a lot of math to it, but you can measure based on how frequently you hear a certain key.
You can have a really good guess as to what key is being pressed based on how often it's pressed. So like E is very common. Z is almost never.
And there's a lot in between. And you can use that to assign values to these keys and have a guess with extreme accuracy for what is being typed on the keyboard. It's insane to me.
Just with a light. Just with an infrared light. So it's not even visible to the human eye.
Huh. Interesting. Yeah, I had never heard of that either.
Bernard just said that light technique to eavesdrop is more than a decade old. So it sounds like it's been around a while. Yeah.
Personally, I didn't know anything about that. So I thought that was crazy. But then the video I was watching took it up a notch with the keystrokes.
And then it's just like, whoa, that's actually kind of scary. Yeah. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah. That sounds like CIA kind of stuff.
Yeah. Big time. All right.
Let's see what else we got here.
The lights in Liam's background belong to a Christmas tree. There you go. Belong on a Christmas tree.
They have their own button. Oh, those lights. Yeah, there you go.
Yep, yep. All right. Let me go back to the QQQ here, see what other comments we have.
Okay, we answered that one. Rob, which AI do you use to help with your channel? I've been using Claude mostly and ChatGPT and Gemini for help with thumbnails.
So I use mostly Claude. I started with ChatGPT and... Actually, I blame ChatGPT for this, but it's not its fault.
I ended up leaving ChatGPT because it became too much of a yes man and it was always agreeing with me, like always. And I just got a little tired of that, so I switched. Now, I could have given ChatGPT better instructions and to tell it not to be my yes man, right?
And train it on how to interact with me, but I didn't. I was actually more interested in learning. Claude as well, because I wanted to get into Claude coding and stuff like that, which I've experimented with.
So yeah, Claude is what I use. I still have ChatGPT on my phone, although I don't pay for it anymore because I don't use it that much. So yeah, as far as thumbnails go, I don't use AI to make my thumbnails, nothing against it.
A lot of people are using AI to make thumbnails and there's so many different ways to do it. You can use a service like one of 10, you can use Claude, you can use ChatGPT. So many different ways.
But for me, I've just gotten used to the way I do it. And it only takes me five minutes to take a screenshot, throw it in Canva, add some text and download it. So that's what I do.
But yeah, no, a lot of people... Do you use AI? I think you said you don't, right, Liam, to make your thumbnails?
Not to make them, but what I do actually is I make the thumbnail first. I really enjoy making the thumbnails myself. I make the thumbnail first.
I do pay for the plus plan for ChatGPT, although I'm thinking about canceling it because I want to subscribe to Streamladder for the clipping, and I just don't want all those subscriptions going on at the same time. But I like being able to give ChatGPT my thumbnail and tell me what would be a good title to go with this.
I never know what to title my videos. an attention -grabbing way. So I designed the thumbnail first, literally send it through to ChatGPT, and then it'll give me some good options.
So I do AI title generation. Okay, okay, cool. Yeah, I do use AI to help me with titles.
Titles and the text to put on my thumbnails. And usually it's Claude, but it has been ChatGPT as well.
Let's see.
I see a question here. What is Liam's channel? Liam A6, the name you see right there.
It's also linked in the description below. I had to jump on that question real quick. Yeah, no, absolutely.
You see a question that I missed or you think I'm glossing over, you address it. Yeah, there's a link to both Liam's channels in the description below. He streams on Twitch.
For those of you who weren't here at the beginning, he streams on Twitch and he's more recently been getting into... YouTube and taking it more seriously. You've been streaming on Twitch for, what, 10 plus years?
Yeah, that's right. Over 10 years. And I actually, yeah, I do see a message here I did want to talk about.
I dropped my Adobe Suite. I don't know how they will survive. I use ChatGPT and have all but stopped using photo editing, although I use Affinity occasionally.
And I looked into Affinity myself. It's kind of like a free Adobe Suite sort of thing. Okay.
But I did want to talk. Adobe's... like modeling, like their price modeling and their business plan is questionable to say the least.
It's very expensive. And they've been caught in some like really weird predatory sort of stuff with how they handle canceling subscriptions. I had to actually pay to get out of a subscription I was paying for, which I really didn't like.
And that rubbed me the wrong way. My problem is I am so used to Adobe. I use Premiere, Photoshop.
and audition and they work so seamlessly together that I can't really find an alternative. I tried Affinity and I didn't like it. I tried the video editing software that you've tried as well, DaVinci, and wasn't a huge fan.
And it's just, in terms of... I didn't need any more roadblocks to stop me from posting. As someone who's still pretty new, I already struggle with trying to get uploads out and adding the roadblock of new editing software is just something I can't manage on top of everything right now.
So I'm pretty stuck with Adobe. I love the software. It's my favorite software.
all of their software is great. It's just the pricing and modeling is an absolute nightmare. So if you're learning and getting into it, a lot of Adobe stuff is the industry standard for a lot of things, but there are definitely other options.
And if you're just getting into learning about it now, take a look at those before jumping into Adobe is all I got to say. Right, right. Yeah.
Yeah. Like you say, there's so many different ways to edit videos. And a lot of them do all the same things.
They all do all the basic things. So sometimes it's just a matter of picking one and getting used to it and sticking with it because switching is hard.
But I mean, I guess if you learn one, learning a second one probably is going to be a lot easier, but it's still a pain. If you get used to certain keystrokes and how you do something, it's hard to, it will take time. There'd be a learning curve to switch over to something else.
It's a hurdle for sure. Yeah, it's a hurdle. I second DaVinci.
Even the free version is powerful. It is. The free version is powerful.
I have the paid version of DaVinci. I used that, actually. I haven't used it in probably over two years, but I have used it, and it is powerful.
So again, like in my case, I use Camtasia now still. I've tried a few times to switch to something else because people keep telling me, you know, you can do so much more with something else and you being one of them, Liam. But I'm just so used to Camtasia and it does all I need it to do.
I mean, I've made all of my videos on my channel with Camtasia, pretty much all, maybe a dozen or so. I used other things like Final Cut. I tried that for a bit.
DaVinci, even CapCut I've tried. Yeah, so. anyway i do see a couple of good questions here um i wanted to just uh take a look at them here where'd my mouse go the chat's like moving um uh where was it oh crap did i lose it already yeah there's two questions here one is is it worth it to stream to twitch and another question was i was um do you use obs to stream to twitch so the first question is it worth it to stream to twitch What I learned at VidSummit is you should stream everywhere you possibly can stream.
It's just free real estate to put yourself out there and, like I said earlier, become unavoidable. Just . It's free advertising.
If you go to someone and say, I will put your company on this billboard for free, would you turn that down? It's so easy. Now, not easy, depending on how you have things set up, but still.
It doesn't cost you anything to stream to multiple platforms at once. So I highly recommend you do it. I don't do it enough.
But you should absolutely stream everywhere you can. I will say where you start streaming, like if you are just trying to get into it, Twitch is very easy to start get going on. YouTube does require a little bit more work.
But if you're already into YouTube, then you already have a channel. You might already have a following that may get a notification when you go live. And then the other question, OBS.
I do use OBS, and I thought this would be a great conversation point because you don't use OBS. I do not. So, yeah, with OBS, I find it gives you a lot more control over things like your scenes, how your software is laid out.
Your sources so all your video inputs going into it like I have multiple cameras set up here And I can switch between any one of them whenever I want and I'm sure you can too dad Yeah, but a lot of it too is like the resolution I stream at the frame rate I stream at the bit rate I stream at the audio bit rate I stream at all these things are under my control I can even set a separate channel of audio It's called a VOD channel.
So it'll be all my audio except for my music. So what happens with Twitch VODs is if you're playing music that is copywritten content or copyrighted content, your VOD will essentially all be muted wherever that music is playing. So even your voice, even though that's not part of the music.
So you can separate that channel out so the music won't be in the VOD after the fact. It's little things like that that OBS gives you full and total control over of. But now you use StreamYard.
Yes. No, I use Ecamm. Ecamm, right.
I did have a question for you about that. Have you found any limitations with it? Have you found things that you wish you had control over and couldn't change or couldn't do because you were using Ecamm and not OBS?
Well, the thing you mentioned about the separating the audio, that's not something I've ever thought of. I mean, I don't play copyrighted music anyway, so I would have to separate that out. So that's not an issue for me.
The one thing I wish it would do that I don't even know how they would do this is the streaming to multiple platforms. But with me only having to stream like once up to the internet and then have it go out. But I don't know how that would be possible.
Ecamm is software I download to my computer and I stream it from Ecamm and it streams up to the internet like that. If I were to want to multi stream and stream to more than one place like YouTube and at the same time Twitch Facebook wherever else Each one of those requires about six megabits per second of bandwidth and I only have 15 out of this house And you should have a bit of a buffer.
I've heard you should have at least ten if you need six So yeah, and I don't know how Ecamm would fix that. The only way I know to get around that is to use something like StreamYard, which somebody mentioned in here.
Do you guys use StreamYard at all? I have used it. In fact, when I started, I used StreamYard because that works differently.
That is a browser -based thing. And StreamYard is not the only one. There's Restream, I think is another one, where you stream up to your browser.
And then from there, StreamYard sends it out to Twitch, to YouTube, to Facebook, to wherever else. So I only have to stream up one feed, right? So that would work for me.
But back when I used to use StreamYard, the bit rate wasn't very good. And I think, Liam, you noticed that, that the quality of my stream wasn't very good. And you tried to convince me to switch to OBS, which I did for a bit.
And I think I've heard that StreamYard has fixed that. It's just that I have since switched to Ecamm. I since got a MacBook.
And I love Ecamm the number one thing I the reason I love Ecamm over OBS is the ability to Pop a message on the screen like that Which Liam can't see yet because there's a delay, but I just say I'm looking at your video. What's that? Yeah, you're gonna have to watch the video.
But yeah, I just popped up here Scott says just stream from Ecamm to Restream .io and then at the Restream site pointed at multiple destinations Wow, Scott Scott knows what he's talking about. Restreama .io, I have looked at that myself, and I experimented with it a little bit.
I think that's what I did do when I did stream between Twitch and YouTube. Worth taking a look at. I'm making a note here.
Thank you, Scott. That sounds brilliant. Where'd you come up with that?
Is that what you're doing? That's awesome.
Mitch says, Ecamm will stream to multiple platforms, but it does take a good Wi -Fi stream. Yes. Yeah, and my Wi -Fi, actually, I'm not even using Wi -Fi.
I have the internet plugged right into my Mac, my dock. So I'm wired to our internet. It's just that my upload, it's from the cable company and the phone company, which is fiber, is not available where I live.
So, but Liam has it in the city. um but yeah so yeah i just don't have it i've got 15 max upload you've got like 900 or something a thousand a thousand yes gigabit up and down i'm jealous that's right yep here's a question i see a question here oh go ahead I just saw Mitch was asking about Streamlabs.
And the funny thing about Streamlabs is Streamlabs is basically a reskin version of OBS. So it's called Streamlabs OBS. And I do use Streamlabs for alerts and things like that.
Although Twitch offered... Some extra benefits on their platform. I think it was more emotes if you used their alert system the twitch alert system But for the longest time you needed to use a third -party service like stream labs to have alerts working properly and things like that so I kind of have this Frankenstein amalgamation of multiple different services for bots in my chat and Alerts and all sorts of things and stream labs is in there somewhere I do know though that there is no better option at least from what I can tell for streaming to twitch from the phone than Streamlabs.
Streamlabs has a great app, and that's what I plan to use for doing real -life live streams from my phone. So I do plan to use Streamlabs. I used to use Streamlabs OBS, but now I'm just on the base OBS vanilla version.
Right. Okay. Anaholics just said he's got 10 gigabits per second up and down.
That would be nice. That would be real nice. I don't even know if I could take advantage of that.
Oh, I guess that would help with uploading and downloading YouTube videos. Yes. Yeah.
Uploading and downloading for sure. But like, wow. Yeah.
10 is insane. Steve says, will 300 megabits per second be enough to stream? Absolutely.
Now, he wrote capital M, capital B, which usually means megabytes. But the way it's usually, I think they usually talk in terms of megabits per second. which is small b.
Is that right, Liam? I got that right? Yeah, so it would be that value multiplied by 8.
Right. Wouldn't it? Yeah, so if it is 300 megabytes, that would be, yeah, 300 times 8.
He probably meant to put megabits. Yeah, probably. Pretty common thing, yeah.
Yeah, mb with a little b slash second or mbps. I sometimes see it written as. But yeah, 6.
is all you need. I mean, 10 to be safe, 10 megabits per second upload is all you need to stream. It is all you need to stream at 1080p, 30 frames per second, I should add, right?
That's what I stream at. Liam, you stream at 1080 60, right? Yes.
That's right. And I stream 7 ,500 bits per second. Okay.
Yeah. So the... The 60 frames per second is what would, I would have a hard time doing that because that's double, right?
So instead of the six to six and a half I need, it's 12 to 13, which is getting awful close to the 15 max for this house. So, but I don't stream games, so I don't need 60 frames per second. Although you think I would benefit from it.
You're a big 60 frames per second fan, right? If it could go higher, I would go higher. Really?
High frame rate is just chef's kiss.
Catherine says, we're rural and have Starlink. It's great. Okay, cool.
Good to know. And I think Starlink, you can get mobile Starlink now. You can attach it to your car or boat and be mobile and have it still work.
I was talking to the guy at the curling shop, dad, and he was talking to me all about his Starlink. Oh, really? Yeah, he was talking to me about how he has Starlink at his bunkie at a property he has in somewhere else in Nova Scotia.
And he got this like solar panel system all set up. So I was talking about something that you were kind of experimenting with similar technology. And we were talking all about, but yeah, he was going on and on about his Starlink.
And it seems really cool. You had Starlink at one point, didn't you? Yes, when I thought I needed it.
before they upgraded the internet feed. Because it used to be 10 megabits per second upload as the max. And I do have Starlink.
It's one of the first ones. It's a big, it's a bigger, like one of the bigger, I think it's a round dish. I don't remember now.
It's like a flat dish. The monthly fee, it didn't make sense because we weren't using it. So yeah, but I do still have it.
I'm just not paying for it. It doesn't work.
Anaholic says, why not stream at 8K at 240 frames per second? I would if I could. At that point, I don't have an 8K camera or a 240 FPS camera for that matter.
Here's a question. I use CapCut and I think I want to switch, but can't decide what would be a good alternative. So CapCut is another editing software.
I think relatively easy to learn how to use. If I were to recommend one in that same camp, it would probably be Camtasia coming from me because that's what I use. But there's other ones.
Movavi is one. Wondershare Filmora is another one. Descript is another one.
So those are all kind of what I consider among the easier ones to learn, but relatively basic. If you want to up your game a little bit and get something that'll do a little bit more, then you get into what Liam uses, like Adobe Premiere or Final Cut Pro if you're a Mac user. Premiere is available on Mac or PC or Windows.
Final Cut is only Mac. DaVinci Resolve is... a good one too.
It's, it's free to start there. It's free forever. If you're okay with what you get in the free version, uh, or it's a one -time fee to, uh, to get the paid version.
So there are some options just to add to that, dad. Um, I think we have slightly different answers to that question. Cause I agree.
Camtasia would be probably the, the, the next step up from CapCut, like the, the easiest transition up, uh, for me personally, I, I hate. transitioning at all. And so for me, like I used to use Sony Vegas, it was owned by Sony at the time Vegas, but now it's owned by different magics, I think, I think owns so Vegas now the editing software, but I basically capped out at it, I couldn't do the things I wanted to do with it.
And so I just looked up like, best editing software. Possible, what do they make movies with I never want to have to learn another software another piece of editing software again? So I just went all the way to the max and then Learned it and it's a lot but you can Do just fine without ever touching 80 % of what's in some of these really big some video editing softwares like you can use Premiere or DaVinci Resolve like you would CapCut where you're just chopping and cutting chopping and cutting stitching together turn the volume up turn the volume down things like that you never have to touch half of the stuff but the thing is once you get to the point where you want to it's there you don't need to do a full software swap and learn something from scratch again so whenever someone asks me What I would recommend, I would recommend going as far up as you can.
Like no need to spend a bunch of money or anything. Like go with the free version of DaVinci Resolve, for example. Like that's like the industry standard for color correction, I'm pretty sure.
But just having something like that in your toolkit so you won't have to make another transition again, for me is super valuable. I can't stand having to learn new software. It's such a pain.
So if you're in a position where you want to switch, I would say go big or go home. Um, but also if you know, you're, you're just never going to want to get into something that serious, then the easiest switch would be Camtasia. So I, I guess two, two, two decent answers.
I would say. Yeah. Okay.
No, that's, that's good advice. That's good advice. Uh, and I never really thought about it that way, I guess.
And I saw another, uh, comment in here. Um, uh, where did it go? About Camtasia keeps coming back to Camtasia because it's just, they're just used to it.
It's . Mike says just fits and I've used it for years. That's the same with me.
Like I've used Camtasia for literally, I think it's 12 years since way before I was doing YouTube. I was in my previous business making, making software development tutorial videos. And I got used to it.
And the reason I keep coming back, cause I've tried other things. I've tried DaVinci and I was with that for a little while, came back to Camtasia. I tried Final Cut Pro only, last year and came back to Camtasia.
For me, it's the animation and just how easy it is to... I make videos sometimes where I'm sharing my screen and showing how to do things, but I always put myself in a circle mask down in the corner and I'll move it around if I have to, if I'm in the way of the mouse and things like that. And the way Camtasia makes it so easy just to...
move something from here to here. You group stuff together, you drop an animation arrow on it, you move it and press a button, done. Like, you don't have to mess around with keyframes.
Now, yes, I don't get the same control. I can't do a, like, I can't control the speed ramping of animations and stuff like that. I've got choices, right?
Like, three choices instead of being able to drop points in. But I've just found all of that took too much time and I don't have the time for that. I just want to make my videos fast.
So that's why I keep coming back to what I know. Rule number one, just post. Whatever you got to do to post, do that.
You do not need the best of the best. You do not need to go all the way up to the full Adobe suite or anything like that. Just whatever will be easiest for you to go from point A to point B and make a video and post it.
That's fine. There you go. Good advice.
And you know what? We should probably stop it there because we're at two hours now. And that's what I'm trying to do, stop these at two hours.
So if you have any final thoughts, Liam, you want to add to this? I love the talk about AI. It'll be interesting to see where that goes and how people are going to use it, I guess, including YouTube, including how YouTube's going to use it.
But yeah, any closing thoughts before we shut this down? No, I just I guess I wanted to say thank you for having me on I love being on these streams I love talking to a very active chat. I'm a little jealous.
I can't lie But you know if anyone in here likes playing video games I've been playing a lot of World of Warcraft and I'll be live tonight in probably two or so hours. Oh, there you go Yep advertising here. Yeah nice self plug there.
That's good Yeah, yeah things are a little more Yeah, vulgar on that side. I'm more PG on YouTube and less so on my Twitch.
It's more of a you're hanging out with me at the bar sort of situation. So that's sort of the vibe. You guys are all forewarned.
Yeah. All right. All right.
Well, thanks, Liam. This was fun. We'll have to do this again.
It's always fun when we do this. Maybe we make a video sometime together too, not just these lives. Absolutely.
All right. All right, guys. Thanks for joining us today.
See you in the next video, or if not, next Tuesday in the next live stream. All right, take care.
The Hook
The bait, then the rug-pull.
The title promises YouTube news, and it delivers a notebook's worth of it. But the better half of this stream is the father and son dynamic: the over-40 YouTube coach who got treated like a rock star in the VidSummit hallways, and the 26-ish Twitch streamer who taught him to go live in the first place and just had the biggest night of his streaming life by turning his friends off.
Named ideas worth stealing.
20:34concept
Join, don't start
Viewers join a conversation already in progress; they rarely start one. A solo streamer narrates every thought out loud so new arrivals land inside something, and keeps an eye on chat without waiting for it.
Steal forany live format with an empty room at the start
38:50model
Two kinds of game streamer
- The entertaining streamer
- The streamer who is genuinely good at the game
Only two paths work in game streaming. Being entertaining is easier than being elite, so most successful streamers choose it and treat the stream as a hangout rather than a performance.
Steal forpositioning any live show
1:10:47concept
Post first, optimize later
Use whatever workflow gets a video out. Only when you have posted consistently and still aren't seeing results do you start layering in A/B tests and the rest of the toolset.
Steal forany beginner tooling decision
1:59:55model
Go big or old shoe
- Go big: jump straight to Premiere or DaVinci Resolve and ignore most of it, so you never switch again
- Old shoe: stay with the tool you know (Camtasia) because speed to post beats features
Two opposite but valid answers to 'which editor should I switch to', chosen by how much you hate learning new software.
Steal fortool recommendations in any niche
How they asked for the click.
VERBAL ASK
2:03:00next-video
“See you in the next video, or if not, next Tuesday in the next live stream.”
Soft and routine. The co-host's own plug for his Twitch stream that night is the only direct ask; the host's coaching and community links live only in the description.
MENTIONED ON CAMERA
FROM THE DESCRIPTION
PRIMARY CTAWhere the creator wants you to go next.
AFFILIATECommission earned if you click.
- Nexus Clips (create shorts from your long videos) – ↗
- Canva (design & thumbnails) – ↗
- DJI Mic 3 – ↗
- Eucos Selfie Stick – ↗
- JOBY GorillaPod – ↗
- Quadlock Case – ↗
- Quadlock Tripod Mount – ↗
- Sony ZV-E10 Camera – ↗
- Sigma 16mm f1.4 Lens – ↗
- Synco Mic-D2 Shotgun Mic – ↗
- Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 – ↗
- Stream Deck – ↗
- Neewer 18” LED Light Panels – ↗
OTHER LINKSAlso linked in the description.
- Liam's channel ↗
- Liam on Twitch ↗
- 🌟 Join CREATORS COVE ↗
- 🍦 COMMENT SCOOP: Find out what your audience is really asking for ↗
- Epidemic Sound (music & sound effects) – ↗
- Kajabi (all-in-one business platform) – ↗
- Camtasia (video editing) – ↗
- 1of10 (research tool) – ↗
- VidIQ (YouTube growth tools) – ↗
- Ecamm Live (live streaming software) – ↗
- 📸 Instagram ↗
Visual structure at a glance.
