New AI Seller, Agent Phone Numbers, and OpenClaw 2.0's Rocky Relaunch
Corey Ganim and Andrew Warner speed-run a week of AI launches, an AI QVC host, an endless AI livestream, and a phone number for your agent, and call out OpenClaw 2.0's rough demo along the way.
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Big Idea
The argument in one line.
This week's AI launches share one thread: agents are gaining real-world hands, phone numbers, computer control, people search, reusable video-edit code, rather than just getting smarter at conversation.
Who This Is For
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READ IF YOU ARE…
You build or manage AI agents and want to know which new tools (phone numbers, computer control, people search) are actually usable this week, not just announced.
You run cold outbound and want a cheaper way to get verified contact data or a compliant way to text and call leads.
You're deciding whether to trust OpenClaw, Claude computer use, or similar agent frameworks with real work and want an honest account of what broke.
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You want a deep technical tutorial on any single tool. This is a rapid-fire rundown, not a how-to.
You're not currently building with AI agents or MCPs. Most of this won't be actionable yet.
TL;DR
The full version, fast.
Corey Ganim and Andrew Warner run through a week of AI product launches built around one idea: agents are gaining hands, not just smarter conversation. PixelShop and Infinite Slop show AI generating and hosting its own live video content. Treg and Google Pix cut the cost of data enrichment and image editing to fractions of a cent. Dial gives an agent a real phone number for about $3 a month, no voice-model setup required. Diffusion Studio turns video edits into reusable code. OpenClaw 2.0 stalls for 48 minutes on a basic demo, while Claude's new computer-use feature finally catches up to Codex. The takeaway: cheap infrastructure for agents to act, call, search, and enrich data is arriving faster than the agents' reliability is improving.
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PixelShop lets anyone paste a product URL and get an AI host pitching it live on a QVC-style stream, with a one-click buy link.
00:54 – 02:33
02 · Infinite Slop: an endless AI livestream
Levels.io's never-ending AI-generated livestream lets chat comments steer what plays next, reportedly costing six figures a month to run.
02:33 – 03:36
03 · Treg: open-source AI people search and enrichment
An MCP for Claude or Codex that finds verified contact data for about $0.0089 a result, replacing pricey enrichment subscriptions.
03:36 – 05:15
04 · Google Pix and AI image editing
A Workspace tool for spot-editing one part of an image with AI without disturbing the rest of the picture.
05:15 – 06:09
05 · Dial: giving AI agents a phone number
A single prompt gets an agent its own callable phone number for about $3 a month, no voice-model setup required.
06:09 – 07:39
06 · AI agents, voice calls, and iMessage
Discussion of iMessage's better response rates for outbound, and Dial's faster path through 10DLC text-messaging compliance.
07:39 – 08:51
07 · Diffusion Studio and code-based video editing
A newly launched tool that turns a video edit into a reusable code block so the same change applies consistently every time.
08:51 – 10:21
08 · OpenClaw 2.0
A live demo of OpenClaw's second version stalls for 48 minutes with no output, prompting a blunt discussion of the project's decline.
10:21 – 10:48
09 · Connecting agents to your tools with Zapier
Sponsor segment on Zapier's MCP for scoping which tools and data an agent, or a teammate's agent, can access.
10:48 – 12:54
10 · Claude gets computer use
Claude Cowork can now click, type, and change settings directly on a Mac, catching up to a capability Codex already had.
12:54 – 15:00
11 · Open-source AI classroom
OpenMAIC spins up an AI teacher, classmates, a whiteboard, graded quizzes, and a debate-style roundtable mode from a single topic prompt.
15:00 – 16:30
12 · Radar: an MCP for podcast discovery
An MCP that searches roughly 208 podcasts for granular guest-pitching opportunities, sponsors, and brand mentions.
16:30 – 16:34
13 · More AI launches
Sign-off pointing viewers to a compilation of recent launches and the show's link list.
Atomic Insights
Lines worth screenshotting.
Treg finds verified emails and phone numbers for about $0.0089 per result, undercutting data-enrichment subscriptions that used to cost hundreds of dollars a month.
Dial gives an AI agent its own phone number for about $3 a month plus $0.13 a minute, with no voice-model setup required for it to talk on a call.
Cold outbound sent over iMessage gets a 3x or better response rate than SMS, according to the hosts' own testing.
Diffusion Studio turns a single video edit into a reusable code block, so the same change can be reapplied consistently instead of regenerating the whole clip.
OpenClaw 2.0 left a sub-agent demo frozen for 48 minutes with nothing produced, despite appearing to spin up research chats.
Claude's new computer-use feature lets it click, type, and change system settings directly on a Mac, matching a capability Codex already had.
Infinite Slop is a livestream that never stops generating new AI video, driven by chat comments, and reportedly costs its creator hundreds of thousands of dollars a month to run.
Radar indexes roughly 208 podcasts so an agent can find warm guest-pitch opportunities instead of scraping Apple Podcasts in a browser.
Dial markets 10DLC approval for outbound texting, normally a slow carrier compliance process, as a self-healing 1-3 day feature.
An open-source AI classroom spawns a lecturing teacher, quiz-taking classmates, and a debate-style roundtable mode instead of just answering questions in a chat window.
Takeaway
AI agents are getting hands, not just smarter conversation
WEEKLY AI ROUNDUP
The tools launching this week point at agents that can search for contacts, dial a phone, edit video by code, and click around your computer, though reliability still lags behind the hype.
01AI-powered QVC and live shopping
PixelShop lets anyone paste a product URL and get an AI-generated host pitching it live, QVC-style, with a one-click buy link for viewers.
The demo shows the AI host adapting its script to specific products in real time, down to describing seams on a novelty underwear listing.
02Infinite Slop: an endless AI livestream
Infinite Slop is a livestream that never ends: it generates new AI video continuously, with the live chat's comments steering what gets shown next.
Creator Levels.io says the stream costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a month to run and is currently subsidized by a video-model partner.
03Treg: open-source AI people search and enrichment
Treg is an open-source MCP that plugs into Claude or Codex to find verified emails, phone numbers, and other contact data for about $0.0089 per verified result.
It replaces enrichment subscriptions that used to cost hundreds to a thousand dollars a month, with no subscription or contract required.
One use case shown: an agent takes a tweet, finds the person's email, and queues an outreach message automatically.
04Google Pix and AI image editing
Google Pix, built into Google Workspace, lets you drop in an image and ask AI to edit just one specific region without disturbing the rest.
It solves the common AI-editing problem where fixing one detail in an image accidentally changes other parts, by supporting true spot edits.
05Dial: giving AI agents a phone number
Dial gives an AI agent a real phone number it can call from and receive calls on, set up by handing the agent a single copy-pasted prompt.
A phone number costs about $3 a month and calls run $0.13 a minute, with $5 in free credit to start, no voice-model setup required.
06AI agents, voice calls, and iMessage
Cold outbound sent over iMessage reportedly gets a 3x or better response rate than standard SMS, per the hosts' own experience.
Dial also markets a faster path to 10DLC approval (1-3 days), the carrier registration normally required before sending outbound texts to consumers.
07Diffusion Studio and code-based video editing
Diffusion Studio turns a specific video edit into a reusable code block, so the same change can be reapplied consistently instead of regenerated from scratch each time.
A visible timeline lets you adjust details like volume on your own, instead of asking an AI model to regenerate an entire video for a small change.
08OpenClaw 2.0
OpenClaw 2.0's sub-agent demo sat frozen for 48 minutes without producing any output, despite appearing to spin up research chats.
The hosts contrast this with OpenClaw's earlier reputation as the agent that first showed people what autonomous AI work could look like.
They attribute the decline partly to OpenAI's acquisition of the team, saying OpenClaw has since fallen behind competitors like Hermes and Grok's agent.
09Connecting agents to your tools with Zapier
Zapier's MCP lets you scope exactly which tools, like email or Notion, an agent can access, useful for teams that need control over data access.
It also lets a company give teammates self-serve ability to add tools to their own agents while still centrally restricting what data those agents can touch.
10Claude gets computer use
Claude's Claude Cowork can now control a Mac directly, moving the mouse, clicking, and navigating settings, matching a capability Codex already had.
One host used Codex earlier to fix a stubborn external-monitor setting neither Google search nor Claude's own suggested steps solved, by just handing over control.
The hosts argue Anthropic's official demo, creating a file in TextEdit, undersells the real use case: handing over any fiddly settings or tech-support problem you'd rather not solve yourself.
11Open-source AI classroom
An open-source project called OpenMAIC builds a full AI classroom from a single topic: a lecturing teacher, classmates who ask questions, and a whiteboard with diagrams.
It includes real-time graded quizzes and a 'roundtable mode' where AI classmates debate each other while you listen in, instead of reading a wall of generated text.
12Radar: an MCP for podcast discovery
Radar is an MCP that lets an agent search roughly 208 podcasts with granular filters, instead of scraping Apple Podcasts through a browser.
One planned use: finding every podcast a specific person has guested on, then pitching that show using the shared connection as a warmer opener.
Glossary
Terms worth knowing.
MCP
Model Context Protocol, a standard that lets an AI agent plug directly into an outside tool or data source, such as Claude or Codex connecting to a phone service or a people-search database.
10DLC
Short for '10-digit long code,' the U.S. carrier registration a business must complete before it can send outbound text messages to consumers without being flagged as spam.
Data enrichment
The process of taking a partial lead, like a name or a tweet, and filling in missing contact details such as a verified email or phone number.
Computer use
An AI agent capability that lets it control a computer directly, moving the mouse, clicking, and typing inside real apps, rather than only editing files behind the scenes.
“We're now 48 minutes and it's done absolutely nothing. It's just completely frozen in time.”
raw, unscripted frustration with a hyped agent framework, strong pattern interrupt→ TikTok hook↗ Tweet quote
03:00
“It replaces hundreds if not a thousand dollars a month in software subscriptions.”
tight, quotable cost-savings claim with no setup needed→ newsletter pull-quote↗ Tweet quote
06:36
“If you do outbound with iMessages, you're going to get a 3x or better response rate.”
specific, testable stat that stands alone→ IG reel cold open↗ Tweet quote
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I have an AI pitch woman who can sell anything for you. You're going to see the most magical way to give your agent a phone number and have it make calls for you. Guaranteed.
OpenClaw 2 .0 is out. You need to see something about it. All that and all the latest AI releases coming up.
Presented by Zapier, the AI automation company. Corey, what are we looking at here? You got to tell people.
Yeah, so we're looking at the AI version of QVC. So the, you know, the live shopping network that's been super popular for decades, someone's created an AI version of it. So here we've got like an AI, basically pitch person.
where you can post the URL to your product in the top left where it says put your product on TV. And this AI pitch person will start pitching your product on the live stream. And then people can one -click link out to your product to buy it.
So I think this is going to be the future of live shopping and live commerce. Very cool to see this rudimentary version of it. Let's hear it for a second.
...of your name, your business card, and every profile you juggle today. I'm going to pause it. I wish that we could bring this Nicolas Cage underwear back up.
It was so funny as you and I were watching it. She was demoing the different seams, talking about the underwear design. It was so well done.
Very QVC. All right, this is super funny, but I could see it working really well. Let's go on to the next one.
Infinite slop along the same lines. What is this? So Levels .io, who's really popular on X, created this.
So I guess bottom line, the video models as of like... a week ago have kind of hit this point where they can generate new video uh just as fast as we can consume it so this is basically a live stream that never ends and it's just ai slop and the people in the chat the comments in the chat determine what shows up on the stream next so you see there's like tons of people there in the chat talking just like literally just talking nonsense and then it just generates that on the stream itself and it never ends and levels that it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars per month to maintain But he partnered with Thal, who I guess this is their video model, and they're supporting it for the time being.
But it's just it was a big breakthrough on the video side. This is fantastic. The bed is huge.
The view is insane. And I bet the minibar is stocked. I love that he also has a way for you to buy ads on here because he's really big into commerce and making money.
25 ,000 a month. Woo. Okay.
Let's go into the next one. Treg. What is Treg?
So this is going to be huge for anybody that uses something like Apollo or really any data enrichment tool. I think Clay has data enrichment features. So Treg is an open source tool.
It's basically an MCP that you can plug into Cloud or Codex to go and find enrichment data. Really any... you know contact information on anyone out there phone number verified email etc for i think it was point zero zero eight nine cents per verified email so it's dirt cheap it replaces hundreds if not you know a thousand dollars a month in software subscriptions that people used to pay to get this enriched data and it's an mcp that plugs right into cloud it's awesome I use this to find email addresses.
I connect Apollo in, but it doesn't always work for me. And I could see that there's an alternative here. What it does is I send my agent a tweet and I say, find me this person so I can interview them.
It finds their email address. It queues up a message from me and it does a few other things. And I'd use Apollo, but it doesn't always work.
So then it starts to guess, which is kind of funky. I like this. I could see using this a lot.
All right. google came out with google pics um and this is something that i think is really interesting if you have google workspace it's part of your workspace you just come in here and you drop an image in and then you could start to both edit it and ask ai to edit it so you can edit it down here or you can just go in here you know sometimes you just you know what you want to do you want to say maybe get rid of the space between and just hit save And in a minute it's going to get rid of the space between these two and make it work here.
Oh wait, I have to apply it and then it'll do it. And then I could also edit individual pictures within it and really get more granular editing within this image.
I use editing for images all the time. I can definitely see how valuable this is. Yeah, me too.
And what I like about this is this is kind of like a spot editing tool. So I'm sure everybody's run into the situation. I know I have many times where we get AI to generate an image and it's like 95 % there.
There's one really specific part you need to change. So then you ask it to change just that one part. But then it ends up changing that one part, but then it changes another part, right?
And so you're kind of doing this back and forth to get it to like keep everything else the same and only change this one part. And this kind of fixes that. This lets you just spot edit a lot easier, it looks like.
I like it. Oh, now it says man in black shirt. Earlier when I moused over myself, it said middle -aged man.
And then to the right, young man. This is one of our old thumbnails. You can see I totally AI'd my face on this.
So I definitely use AI tools to create thumbnails and other images. All right, next. Dial.
This one is so fun. If you have an agent, you're going to want to use this. What you do is...
you use dial to give your agent a phone number that it can dial out and receive calls from usually these systems are really difficult here it's so magically easy that i just did it while waiting for a guest to join on a call with me you just copy this prompt hand it over to your agent and then your agent will do the rest and it'll send you a confirmation text to make sure that it's connected to a real person.
But then your agent will freaking call you and have a conversation with you. And this is the fastest way I've seen to get a phone number to an agent. And you get $5 free, which is more than enough for you to both get a phone number, which I think is $3, and then get some minutes on there, which is not expensive at all.
I still have some time. Here we go, $3 a month for a phone number. And then $0 .13 a minute for the call.
So if you use an agent to make outbound calls, I could see this being helpful. And if you've been curious about it, this is the one you're going to call. copy this prompt and you're going to love.
So a couple of things that I'm noticing here too, because like before tools like this existed in order to give your agent a voice, right? You would have to do, you'd have to, you know, spin up 11 labs and connect that to your, it was just like a whole process. And so you're telling me that, cause I haven't tried this yet, but you're telling me that it will call me without me setting up any sort of voice model.
Like just literally can't hand it that prompt. It'll call my phone and start talking to me. Yes.
Yes. And you know what? I just noticed that I hadn't in my experiments with it.
It even will do iMessage texting. That is really interesting. Really inexpensive.
Great. That's a huge use case for outbound too. That's a huge use case for outbound because, I mean, if you do outbound with iMessages, you're going to get a 3x or better response rate.
And I see there at the very top, the banner on the top, it says introducing self -healing. 10 DLC feature get approved in one to three days. I mean, that's always a big pain point for people who want to do cold outbound text messages is getting 10 DLC approved.
So what is 10 DLC? Pretty easy, which is nice. That's just like the, the, you know, what's the word compliance, I guess you need to go through in order to be able to send outbound text messages to consumers.
So it's just like some hoops you need to jump through to make sure that you're not just like some massive spammer. All right. Here's the one for iMessage.
iMessage actually does cost more, $250 a month. And somehow you can do inbound and cold outbound. All right.
Really interesting. Similar to Agent Mail. So we'll link it both in the description.
Let's go on to Diffusion Studio. What is this and what do you like about it? Just launched.
So this, yeah, this is a brand new tool that, so from what I've been told, the breakthrough here is that when you go to edit a piece of video you can turn that specific edit into a code block so from what I understand editors one of the big pain points they have and the reason why you know AI editing is not quite there yet is because it's always there's always some fluctuation in terms of the output but now when you make an edit you can turn it into code and the next time you want to make that same edit or apply that same change you can just use your code block and it'll be the same every time so from what i understand this will just make editors lives a lot easier and it'll make their work a lot more consistent which i think is hugely beneficial to anybody editing video or especially if they're using ai Yeah, the timeline is really helpful.
I can get Codex to make really great videos for me, but if I need to lower the volume, I have to ask it to regenerate the whole video instead of just playing with the volume on my side the way I would if I have a timeline or delete a section of a timeline. All right, I'm so looking forward to talking about the next one. This is OpenClaw 2 .0.
OpenClaw is the agent that got all of us to start seeing the future, which is like you have an agent that does work for you and you can communicate with like an employee or like an assistant. They have basically gone silent because they've been working on OpenClaw 2 .0. I really wanted this to work out well.
Then I saw Alex Finn's video and he's enthused about everything. Every new AI thing he says, go get. And I thought he would say the same thing here.
But listen to the problems that the man had with this software. Looks pretty cool. So that's neat.
Checking back in with the original sub -agent demo I was trying to do. We're now 48 minutes and it's done absolutely nothing. It spun up those other chats and did research, but nothing's coming out of this at all.
It's just completely frozen in time. It is so frustrating. It is so...
This is so disappointing. I don't know what's going on with them. I don't either.
And I always give them credit because they, like you said, they showed us what was possible. I think Greg Eisenberg had a good quote when OpenClaw was blowing up. He's like, people are going to remember this moment as, you know, the world pre -OpenClaw and the world post -OpenClaw.
And so they'll always have that spot in history, at least in terms of our little bubble of the world. But ever since then, they've been really ever since OpenAI kind of took them under their wing. They've been dropping the ball on everything and they've just been getting absolutely laughed by Hermes and Grokbot and everybody else.
You know what? This is a good time for me to say, if you do have an agent and you want to give it access to all the tools that you use, I like to give it access to email. I like to give it access to Notion.
I like to give it access to obscure software that we're using, but I need to restrict it. If that is you and you go to zapier .com slash MCP, you'll be able to do that very easily. And more importantly, you'll be able to give other people on your team the ability to add features and software to their agents, but give you the control that you need because you're running a company and you don't want all your data to leak out.
Next. Claude finally added a feature that I've been looking forward to because I really love this in Codex, and that is computer use. Corey, I've had so many problems.
I'm talking to you right now and monitoring you from time to time on my iPad over here, which is being used as an extended monitor. For some reason, I couldn't get my Mac to connect to my iPad and make it work as an extended monitor. I went to Codex and I said, you have access to my computer.
Figure it out. Just do it. And then I saw it move the mouse on the computer, click around, go into settings, and it made it happen while I was using my mouse on my same computer doing my work.
I wanted that feature from Claude. Claude didn't have it, and now ClaudeCoreWork has it. It can actually control different apps on your computer.
They have a very lame example here. I don't think they fully understand the vision behind this type of tool. So their lame example is, hey, Claude, create a new file in TextEdit.
And Claude goes, I'm on it, requesting computer access for TextEdit now. This is a babyish example that is not really the use case. But now that you know that you can have...
claw just like codex go and control your computer when you have a problem that you need tech support you just wanted to do some work you can ask it to do it anything that you'd use this for yeah i mean this is just i think the thing i want people to realize here is that you know people might think like oh it's always had this well it's always had the ability to edit files and folders on your computer but not not necessarily take control of your physical machine right codex has been able to do that for a while so claude's kind of playing catch up but i mean yeah to your point like there was I got a new monitor recently too, and I could not figure out how to mirror my MacBook to my new monitor.
It was trying to act as an extension, and I'm like, I don't want that. So I'm sitting there on Google, I'm sitting there on Cloud, like what setting do I choose? And it was giving me the answer, but I guess the Mac settings have updated since that answer was updated.
It took me like 15 minutes to figure it out. So now that Cloud has this feature, and I could have just used Codex at the time, you can just say like, hey. you know find the setting that mirrors my macbook to my new monitor and set it up and then it would go and do it and it'd be done right so that's what it kind of lets you do now that it couldn't do previously really any app any feature that you just struggle to go figure out give it now to one of these tools it'll do it for you hasan tour who loves to talk about github has something here um you brought this up to me talk about this what is this So I think this one is really interesting.
So he built what he's calling an open sourced AI classroom. So I think when people like nowadays, when they think about learning from AI, they think like, oh, I'm just going to go prompt Claude or I'm going to go prompt chat GPT and ask it to teach me a topic. And then it's going to give me some like novel of information that I can go and read through to learn.
But what Hassan built here. is you can give it a topic. So the example he uses like, hey, teach me quantum physics.
And then it's going to build a legit classroom. It is going to spawn an AI teacher who lectures out loud. It's going to populate AI classmates who ask questions and get called on.
The teacher is going to start writing on a whiteboard, start writing diagrams and solving equations step by step. And then you're going to get quizzes that are graded in real time. And what the part that I think is most interesting, he says there's a roundtable mode.
where the ai agent classmates start debating each other and you get to just like listen in on their debate which is going to help you learn a lot faster than you just like reading a wall of text so i think this is super interesting and this is clearly where education is going i'm not sure if he's the one who built it i think he's just someone who likes to popularize uh github repos right um and i think yeah i think he's showing off this this uh new feature new launch Yeah, but either way, I mean, super interesting.
Super interesting. The ability to just say, now teach me and not have a chatbot go back and forth with you, but go even more creatively is really helpful. By the way, I'm in Mexico.
Can you hear this? It's like an echo out of everywhere here. And there's somebody in the co -working space right there just talking.
And it comes in here. How am I going to work out of this country? I moved to Mexico.
If you all see a different backdrop, that's what's going on here. And there's a bit of a... the challenge as I'm doing this.
All right, final one. This is radar. This is an MCP for podcasts.
It basically is a way of letting your agent search through podcasts, like hundreds of them. I think it's 208 maybe right now. But really granular searches.
You you have a few ideas for how people would use this. How would you use it? Yeah.
So this, I mean, this is something I could see myself using right away because one of the workflows that we do, we built a set of Claude skills and an orchestrator skill that runs them all in parallel. But the first skill is to find podcasts in my niche that we can go and pitch for me to come on as a guest. Yeah.
So the way that works right now is it doesn't even like Claude doesn't use the Apple podcast API. It'll just use the browser, basically a browser scrape. Right.
It might be able to use API now, but back when I built it, it wasn't. It wasn't able to do it, which obviously is very finicky. So with an MCP like this, it can search way more podcasts, way more accurately, way quicker and go and find ones in my niche, go and find ones that, for example, like I could go find all the podcasts that Andrew's been featured on and I could go and pitch that host and say like, hey, me and Andrew are friends.
Like we do this show together. It's a much warmer pitch. So there's so many use cases for.
finding relevant podcasts that you can go and pitch yourself on to to be a guest and grow your audience and get your influence out there yeah i like seeing which brands are being talked about i like seeing which uh which sponsors they have all right so links everything below and if you like this we have these killer sets of launches that we recently talked about and there's a link for you right on the screen to go to go click it and we'll see you there
The Hook
The bait, then the rug-pull.
Two AI show hosts race through a week's worth of launches, from an AI QVC host that pitches your product live to a service that gives your agent its own phone number, and land on a blunt verdict about OpenClaw 2.0 along the way.
Frameworks
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12:54concept
OpenMAIC roundtable mode
AI classmates debate each other on the topic while the learner listens in, instead of the learner just reading a generated explanation.
Steal forany AI-education or onboarding product wanting a more engaging alternative to static explainer text
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