Ed Mylett and Brendon Burchard unpack the real reason high achievers feel empty after winning — and what abundance actually means.
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Big Idea
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Abundance is not something you acquire but a state of inner access — when you are honest with yourself, keep your own promises, and pursue what genuinely matters, the path opens naturally rather than through grinding depletion.
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TL;DR
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Most high achievers arrive at what they chased and realize they sacrificed their health, relationships, and peace to get it — and still do not feel what they thought they would. Burchard frames the root cause through four things people actually need: aliveness, deep connection, meaningful pursuits, and growth. Mylett adds that performance is a frequency problem — you vibrate at your highest level when you keep promises to yourself and live in alignment with your values. Abundance, they conclude, is not the destination but the quality of presence and enjoyment you bring to the pursuit itself.
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Pattern interrupt — opens in medias res with Burchard's core claim about abundance as an access problem, then cuts to intro.
02:16 – 07:25
02 · Taking on a client
Burchard on screening for all-in ambition vs. problem-solving clients. Mylett adds the sanity dimension — success without burning out relationships and health.
07:26 – 13:35
03 · The four pillars
Burchard's four things every person actually wants: aliveness, connection, meaningful pursuits, and growth. Clarity as the first job of coaching.
13:36 – 19:47
04 · Become ULTRA
Environments and associations as 50% of performance. Mylett's frequency model — keeping promises to yourself as the mechanism for higher vibration and self-confidence.
19:48 – 23:53
05 · Confidence and certainty
The four D's (doubt, discouragement, delay, delusion). Courage vs. conformity. The coaching coin: compassion, challenge, dialogues of discovery.
23:54 – 32:01
06 · What abundance actually is
Burchard's Emerson/transcendentalist framing of inner light and access. Mylett's Field of Dreams analogy. Abundance as enjoyment, not acquisition.
32:02 – 37:51
07 · Knowing your why
Burchard recounts Mylett's vulnerable Ultra moment. Closing: the abundance is not the get.
Atomic Insights
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Abundance is an access issue — most people lack it not because they lack money or status, but because they lack access to themselves.
Coaching someone to solve a problem is commodity work; the real job is helping them become more so they want bigger problems.
People do not want meaning — they want meaningful pursuit. A meaningful life without the hunt makes humans miserable.
The fastest path to self-confidence is keeping the promises you make to yourself, because you build a reputation with yourself the same way you do with others.
The opposite of courage is not fear — it is conformity. Discouraged people conform and color within the lines.
Most ultra-successful people seek coaching not for strategy but to eradicate doubt and build certainty about whether they can do it.
When you live in alignment with your values you vibrate at a higher frequency and become magnetic to what you are actually worth.
Great coaching does not motivate — it asks questions that help the client find their own answer, which is why the breakthrough actually sticks.
You can get everything you chased and still have a regret: that you did not enjoy it more.
The coaching coin: compassion on one side, challenge on the other, with dialogues of discovery in the middle.
Performance is 50% mental and 50% environmental — your associations either reinforce your new standards or quietly pull them back down.
Life distills down to a handful of beautiful moments. Clarity on what those are is the real goal of coaching.
Takeaway
Abundance is access to yourself, not to more things.
WHAT TO LEARN
Every framework in this conversation — the four pillars, the frequency model, the coaching coin — points at the same root: you cannot build an abundant life without being honest with yourself about what you actually want.
02Taking on a client
Only work on problems with people who want the next level, not just a solution to a specific problem — the ambition level determines whether coaching can actually move them.
Success that burns out health, relationships, or inner peace is not a complete win — real coaching designs for both the achievement and the life quality around it.
03The four pillars
Most people come to coaching needing clarity on what they actually want — not strengths/weaknesses analysis, not personality tests, but a clear stated outcome.
The four things people really want are aliveness, deep connection, meaningful pursuits, and growth — map where they feel depleted and start there.
People need the hunt, not just meaning — being in active pursuit of something purposeful is a biological need, not a preference.
04Become ULTRA
Keeping the promises you make to yourself is the mechanism that builds self-confidence — not affirmations, not motivation, but a track record with yourself.
Living in alignment with your values raises your energy output and changes how others respond to you.
Environment is 50% of the equation: build or join communities that hold you to the standard you say you want.
05Confidence and certainty
Doubt is the primary reason high achievers seek coaching, even if they frame it as wanting strategy — address the certainty deficit first.
Discouraged people conform. Watch for returning to default behaviors and other people's scripts as a signal of discouragement, not laziness.
The coaching coin — compassion + challenge + dialogues of discovery — is why questions outperform instructions every time.
06What abundance actually is
Abundance is an access issue: access to your own inner clarity, values, and truth — not to external resources.
When you are aligned with who you actually are, obstacles recalibrate you rather than stop you.
Build the vision in your mind first — the Field of Dreams principle applies to relationships, businesses, and the life you want.
07Knowing your why
High achievers often arrive at success and regret that they did not enjoy the journey — enjoyment is not a reward at the end, it is a practice along the way.
Life distills down to a handful of beautiful moments — clarity on what those are helps you build toward them and stop sacrificing them for the wrong things.
Glossary
Terms worth knowing.
Aliveness
Burchard's term for the first of four core human needs — a felt sense of energy, passion, and vitality; the drive and enthusiasm people describe as having lost when they seek coaching.
Meaningful pursuits
Burchard's third pillar — not just having meaning in life, but actively being in the hunt toward something purposeful. Distinct from meaning alone; a person can have a meaningful life and still be miserable without active pursuit.
The coaching coin
Burchard's framework for effective coaching: compassion on one side, challenge on the other, and dialogues of discovery in the middle — questions that help clients generate their own breakthroughs.
Vibrational frequency
Mylett's model for peak performance state — the idea that living in alignment with your values and keeping your own promises raises your energetic output, making you more effective and magnetic.
The four D's
Mylett's framework for what blocks performance: doubt, discouragement, delay, and delusion. Coaching primarily addresses doubt and discouragement — the internal enemies that cause people to conform instead of pursue.
Ultra (ultra.vip)
Burchard's high-performance mastermind community, co-facilitated with Mylett — referenced as an example of a curated environment that supports personal growth.
32:02 – 37:51steadyRegret, enjoyment, the real get
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00:00I think really most people do come to us because they want more abundance.
00:03How do you view an abundant life in getting one? It's an access issue. Right?
00:08And a lot of people don't have abundance because they don't have access to a bank. Well, a lot of people don't have abundance because they don't have access to themselves.
00:15I really believe life is like a field of dreams. And if you're not careful, you're gonna get to the end of your life, and all you did was sit in the stands and clap for everybody else and worry and fret about how you're gonna get your hands on the next check-in your life. And maybe you need a coach just to help you get clear again on why you were born and what your life's like.
00:33Please enjoy that journey because abundance will come because of your high agency. The abundance isn't the get. To me, abundance is that enjoyment of life.
00:42That's the get. Bro, every time we do this, something magic happens.
00:55Alright. Welcome back to the show, everybody. So back by popular demand.
00:59Every single month, you're gonna be with us when we do Thursday episodes, and I'm so honored to be joined by my dear friend, one of the greatest leaders I've ever met in my life regardless of the industry, someone someone who's had such a huge impact on my life and literally millions of other people around the world.
01:15He is sort of, just so you guys know, the coach of most of the people in personal development. He is their coach behind the scenes. Brenna Bouchard, welcome back to the show, brother.
01:24Such an honor. I feel the exact same about you, man. I've learned so much about you, and you know your podcast gets me fired up.
01:31You're you're one of the few people I listen to when I actually work out. So Yes. I know.
01:34You're my guy. I appreciate you. I know you do.
01:36He's messaging me all the time. This is awesome. It's because it's probably because he's on the show about 25% of the time.
01:42But, anyway, he does rave about the show. So we're talking about coaching, and that's what I wanna get into today. I think everybody, this is gonna be great insight to you into how to change yourself.
01:52So we're gonna talk about how we coach people today, and I will brag on the two of us. USA Today did name us both the number one and number two mindset coaches in the world, and that's pretty cool stuff.
02:02So we figured since we were named that, we might as well take advantage of it and let you guys kinda have an inside look at what we do and what we think when we're coaching somebody. And you can sort of you can sort of self regulate and self coach a little bit today as we go through it. So let me start with you, brother.
02:17When you first take somebody on that you're coaching, what is it that you look at to kind of deduce the direction you're gonna go? What are some of your dos and don'ts?
02:29in reaching next level? Otherwise, I don't wanna work with them. You know?
02:32Because sometimes you get people like, oh, you know, I'd like to kind of improve, or I have this problem, Ed. If you could help me through this problem, don't wanna work with that person.
02:41I wanna work with the people go, I'm there's another level for me. I sense it in my heart and my spirit. I know I can achieve that championship, or I know I could build this business, or I know I can break through.
02:54They have a higher ambition line in their life. And I'm listening to the connection that they have with that higher ambition. Otherwise, we're just a commodity solving a problem for somebody.
03:04And our job as coaches, when we're really serious, and I know you do this better than anybody else in the world, is you know how to level up people. Mhmm. Right?
03:12It's it's not about just coaching somebody to solve a problem. It's about how do we level up who they are? Yeah.
03:18How do we help them not just solve a problem? How do we help them become more so they, in fact, wanna take on bigger problems and achieve greater things,
03:27but this time, do it with a little more sanity for themselves and for their families, hopefully. What do you mean by more sanity? I'm just curious.
03:33What did you mean by That was an interesting I ad on
03:36think most people who come to coaching is they get coaching because they realize the last tour that they did, the last effort that they did, the last time they had success, they burned themselves out.
03:50They lost friends. They got unhealthy. They became addicted.
03:56They got divorced. They wrecked that relationship. They had success, but they also had lower levels of well-being and less positive relationships as they wanted.
04:07And and the whole study that I do of high performance and and helping people reach ultra success is all about how do you attain that next level of success, but this time, good well-being?
04:18This time, positive relationships. So you actually feel enjoyment and fulfillment and aliveness from it versus the grind.
04:26You just hit one of your geniuses right there. When I think of what you just described, I actually think of you, meaning you do live that. And it's one of the things I've improved my coaching of myself because of that.
04:38I was just thinking about I I did a podcast on this recently about that lane you're in, and then I'll sort of add my piece to what I do. I that that's serenity prayer that they pray in AA. And and one of the things that, you know, they talk about in AA is is basically praying enough to have the peace to let go of the things you can't control and to focus on the things you can control and to surrender to that and to have the wisdom to know the difference between those two things.
05:07And one of the things that makes somebody acquire things in life and become successful is they're a control freak. You're a 100% right.
05:15They're a control freak. And because they're a control freak, it really serves them in the acquisition of success, the acquisition of the promotion, the money, the, uh, the title, the influence, whatever it might be.
05:25But the other side of that very thing is that it's the one thing that keeps them miserable and the relationship's miserable because they try to control the relationship there, and they try to control every result. And when you become somebody who learns to have the wisdom to know the distinction between the things you can control or should control and can't control.
05:43That can produce that part of the life that you talk about. I gotta tell you one thing. As we were talking, I was thinking about the different types of people that I coach.
05:51And the easiest person that I coach that I'm thinking about, like, one of my fighters right now who has a big fight coming up at Madison Square Garden. That's a really easy person to coach.
06:01And the reason that they're easier for me to coach is because we have a very specific stated outcome for this, uh, journey we're on, which is to win that fight. Mhmm.
06:10That's the outcome. But I think about the vast majority of people I coach and even the ones that pay us both 6 and 7 figures. I gotta tell you, it blows my mind that when someone will pay me a lot of money to coach them and when we begin, I say, I'd just like to get clear on what it is you need my help with.
06:29Uh-huh. And their inability to answer that question.
06:34Right? They're hiring you because they need clarity. That's right.
06:37Exactly right. You just you just nailed it on the head. So the easy person to coach is one of my athletes if it's just, like, for a fight.
06:45But in general, one of the reasons I think you need coaching in your life, and one of the things I would ask all of you listening to this or watching it today is, like, how clear truly, like, truly clear on are you exactly what it is that you do actually want?
06:59And I think a lot not what everyone else has told you you want or what your parents think you should have wanted or even what you used to want and haven't quite got yet. Like, in this moment right now, what are or is the result you want to produce?
07:14What are the results or what is the result? What is your stated outcome? And I think that's one of the reasons having a coach to help you get real clarity on not the thing that it sounds like you want, but the thing you truly want.
07:26If I went back and thought about it, I never wanted to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I wanted how I thought that would make me feel.
07:36Mhmm. And I I I I never wanted to be you know, I didn't have to have to be completely fit all the time in my life. I wanted how I thought that would make me feel.
07:46I say the right things about I wanna learn to help all kinds of people, and I do. But I also sort of had a vision of how that would make me feel if I could contribute to other people's lives.
07:57And so it's not always just stated destinations. It may be an emotional home you want, an emotional goal you you have in your life. And I'm just curious.
08:05When you start working with someone, what do you look for? So one is obviously helping them to get clear on what they want. Mhmm.
08:11But is there something else you look for? Like, do you work on their weaknesses compared to their strengths? Are there what what what's your process?
08:18Yeah. I'm way more into not looking at their personalities, most people.
08:24I don't think about their enneagram. I don't have to do personality tests Neither. Or even focus on strengths and weaknesses.
08:31I say, what kind of life are you trying to build? Mhmm. And I think you're actually really good at this, and I wanna add into something you said earlier about, you know, you maybe have this this person who wants to win this fight, and that's the outcome.
08:43I also know that what makes you a phenomenal coach is you're a mentor to these gentlemen.
08:50Mhmm. That you aren't just telling them how to win in the ring. Sure.
08:55You're very good about telling them how to live a life. And you're also very good about not just how to win in this next fight, you're setting them up for how to win in life as a career too. So it's not just this fight, but how do they win the next five fights?
09:09Mhmm. And so I think one thing that coaches are always doing, we're looking at a longer term perspective for people, And you're world class at that and mentoring them in character development.
09:21Mhmm. And not just their feelings, which you're good at too, but about how they wanna live, how they wanna experience life.
09:29Mhmm. As they're trying to hit this milestone or this achievement or win that particular sport, it's that you're so much of coaching is helping people kind of recalibrate to character Yeah.
09:43And think again about what should life feel like? What is life about for me? How do I want to achieve this and feel and experience it this time?
09:53Because last time I just didn't sleep for five months and I got lucky. It's like this time, no. Let's just do it better this time.
10:01I also believe that people only want four things, and everybody I've ever sat down with, it's it's just so clear that they'll want one of four things. They might not know it yet.
10:10Everyone wants and I'll go fast because you already know this, but they want aliveness. The number one thing when I work with people, they don't know they want aliveness. Brendon, I lost my drive, my motivation, my spark.
10:22You know, I want that enthusiasm, that passion again. Or or maybe I want more presence.
10:27I want, as your word, I want more bliss in my life. That's a sense of a lie there's a certain aliveness and reverence to life that people want to feel, and a lot of people want that op of adventure or passion. Other people want that bliss and that presence and that spirituality that comes with aliveness.
10:42But I use the word aliveness. Other people might use the word vibrancy or energy.
10:48Mhmm. I also know that people want deep connection. They want better relationships with themselves and everybody around them.
10:56They they want friendship. They want to be closer with their spouse. I also know people want meaningful pursuits, and this is a big one.
11:06They don't want just meaning. That was like the eighties. What people want now is meaningful pursuit.
11:12It means lot of people have a meaningful life, but they're not in the hunt anymore. You know? I know lots of people, they run major nonprofits.
11:21They're incredibly unhappy because the pursuit isn't there. The hunt, we're goal driven human species.
11:28We we wanna be in the hunt on something. It's why you haven't retired. You can retire.
11:32Anne Mylett has an unbelievably meaningful life, amazing family, amazing achievements, worldwide reach, unbelievable impact.
11:42He still die but you can't retire on meaning. Humans want the hunt, pursuit. What am I in pursuit of?
11:51Is that purposeful and meaningful and fulfilling to me? And then the fourth thing is growth. Gosh.
11:58We wanna grow in competency, capability, our own spirit and character.
12:03And so when you say, what am I working with them on? It's not strengths and weaknesses as much as it's, okay. I just draw up this little triangle, put aliveness, meaningful pursuits, connection, and growth in the middle, and and we kind of work through it.
12:16Yep. And we see where they feel like they've, you know, what I call gone ultra.
12:21They've gone that extra mile in each area. And in other areas, we just identify where they really need to do some work.
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13:35I also think and oftentimes, I think winning is about somewhere around 50% mental and about 50% environmental.
13:44And I think oftentimes, if you don't surround yourself with an environment that can support these new choices and behaviors you're making, it's almost like an ecology test for what you're doing.
13:54Right? Like, you have to have an environment that supports it. And you can create those environments in a lot of other ways through your association and your friends.
14:01The other thing you can do is be a part of a group that does that. And I just for the I I think my audience just needs to know this. Like, you've created this incredible environment called Ultra.
14:10I contribute in that environment. We work together in it on a very regular basis, you and I and others. But just, like, really quickly, and then I'm gonna add to what you just talked about in terms of what I work with somebody on as well.
14:21But go ahead. How did if someone want to find out about your environment or the one I work in with you at Ultra, where would they go?
14:28Yeah. People go to ultra.vip. That's literally the website, ultra.vip, to learn about it.
14:35So I think that so much of coaching is also reminding people, get around other amazing people. Like, as a coach, we are working on their relationships as much as their objectives.
14:47You know? You're right. Well, I think one of the reasons is this, is that why environments matter or just in general guys coaching?
14:53I've kinda distilled my own success down over the years to kind of a simple thing recently, and it I'm probably oversimplifying it, but I need to make sure I'm vibrating at the highest possible frequency I'm capable of the majority of the time. In other words, yes, you need to acquire the tactics and strategies that make you successful.
15:13But assuming you have those things, my job is some form of self care, meaning I'm like the athlete. You listening to this, you're the thoroughbred of your life.
15:22You have to be ready for the race. And in most times, walking into a meeting, making a pitch, coaching somebody, giving a speech, writing your book, selling your product, whatever it is, the most important thing you could do is show up.
15:35This sounds so trite, but show up your best. Like, the best you. And that's a vibrational frequency.
15:43That's an energetic thing. And when you've got life pulling away your frequency and your energy and your focus and you're depleting it on things you can't control and you're not clear on exactly what you want, all these things contribute to a lower vibrational frequency, and then you're not attracting to yourself the things you're worthy of because you've depleted your frequency.
16:03And oftentimes, like, guys, when I coach somebody, people ask me this all the time. Brennan mentioned, you know, character development.
16:10The biggest thing for me when I'm vibrating at my highest frequency, the highest frequency is truth, and the highest truth is to yourself. And that's why these things all are interconnected.
16:22Let me explain everybody. When you're keeping the promises that you make to yourself, when you're living in congruency with the values you have said you want to live by, you vibrate at a very high frequency, and you become magnetic.
16:36So it's not just if I say I'm gonna get up at a certain time, I get up. Or if I'm gonna work out five days a week, I work out. If I'm gonna drink a gallon of water, I do it.
16:44If I'm gonna make 10 contacts, I do it. That's one thing, which is keeping the promises you make to you. This is something that is so important.
16:51And one thing about having a coach or being in a group is it can hold you accountable to these things you say you want. The other part of it is living in congruency with your values.
17:01That's to be true to oneself. So if you value, you know, fitness and you're living a fit lifestyle, you're feeding something in you that chain that that grows you.
17:12And why when I get a coach, when I have people that I coach, people say to me, what are you working on, like, with a really ultra successful person?
17:20No pun intended. And you'd be surprised why most people come to me, and this will make you feel good about yourself, everybody. Most people at every level to get to the next level in their life doubt whether they can.
17:35They doubt. And what contributes to that doubt is discouragement.
17:42And I talk oftentimes about the four d's, doubt, discouragement, delay, and delusion. But setting the last two aside, how are you gonna eradicate your doubts if you're not working on yourself?
17:53And so what most of the time is we're talking through things to strengthen their certainty, strengthen their confidence. You know? Self confidence is this, like, really overcooked thing in personal development.
18:02But the truth of the matter is most people aren't working on building their self confidence. The fastest path to self confidence is to keep the promises that you make to you. Because now you're building a reputation with yourself that you do what you say you're gonna do.
18:14And then on top of that, if you live in accordance with your values, that's pretty hot. But most people come to me working on their doubts.
18:22That same fighter, they need more certainty they're going into the ring. That executive to take the company to the next level.
18:28That salesperson who wants it's usually doubt related and finding some level of certainty. Because in every situation, typically, the more certain person wins. Certainty matters.
18:39So that's why when you have a coach, it it matters. And when you're coaching yourself and working yourself, it's developing certainty.
18:45And then discouragement. Discouragement, everyone, is really to remove courage from somebody.
18:51So to become more courageous see see, courage is, you know oh, it's tough to say, courage is something, you know, you operate when there's fear anyway.
18:59Right? The opposite of courage to me is conformity.
19:05Think about that. It's to conform. It's courageous to live a life on your own terms.
19:12Discouraged people conform. Listen, everyone. Discouraged people conform.
19:18I'm gonna go back to the life my parents said I should have. I'm gonna color within the lines. I'm not gonna really try to stretch or push anything.
19:24I'm just gonna conform to the norm. And so when I see someone who's a conformist, I think they're a coward.
19:33And I think they're a coward because they're discouraged. And so I wanna challenge you all. Don't conform.
19:39Don't color within the lines. Find something in your life that gets you to chase, as Brendan said. I just did a podcast on this, that human beings need to chase.
19:48I'm curious in your case, are there strategies you use yourself or when you coach to help people with doubt or discouragement to increase confidence and certainty? Yeah. I think there's only three tools in coaching.
20:03One side of the coin is compassion. And so when you're working with a client and they're in that doubt or they have that question in their mind or they're not certain, we we have to meet them with a certain level of compassion.
20:17And I'm gonna tell everyone this because it's really important to hear. It's like, you might know me and Ed as, like, the motivational speakers or the podcasters, but when we're coaching, we're not doing that at a person very often.
20:27Instead, we're often asking questions to elicit their own options.
20:35We're asking questions to help them find and discover their own path. Like Ed just said, he's not trying to get them to conform. Just do this.
20:42He's trying to say, what would work for you? Have you tried this before? What, you know, what draws your enthusiasm?
20:47Or how do you want that to go? We're asking lots of questions to help them find their answers. That's what real coaching is.
20:53And so we're trying to find some level of compassion for themselves. Because if you doubt yourself, you probably dislike yourself.
21:00You're discouraged. You dislike that you got so discouraged and you stopped. You know?
21:04You know you're part of the herd and you wanted to break free, but you tried. They made fun of you. You came back in.
21:09And so we gotta meet them with compassion, our and conversation and our questions have to help elicit self compassion from them. The other side of the coin is challenge, and challenge is, I think, what Ed is phenomenal
21:22at. He could just Ed Ed Ed can look at you and pierce an arrow right through your brains. You're just toast.
21:31He's seen it before. He he he just picks up on every way that you move and every way you talk, and and he just he has a way of just knowing. So now he's gonna push.
21:41I always say coaches are paid to push. We're challenging them to go to another level. And so great coaches issue challenges, but again, they almost feel like Socratic challenge.
21:50We're asking questions that make them think about truth, think about the right thing, and generate their options. And the the middle of the coin, if you can, because, like, compassion on one side, challenge on the other side, the middle is just dialogues of discovery. And that dialogue of discovery is you're just trying to ask the questions that help them find their own because if they find the it locks in.
22:14If you just shout at them, they get temporarily motivated. And so so much of what we're doing in coaching is trying to help them generate the option, but also they generate the breakthrough.
22:26They find their answer. They find their courage. You can tell someone to be courageous all day long.
22:31They're the ones who have to step up in the ring. So when they find their courage through a dialogue with you, they'll always go, you changed my life, and really all you did is you opened up the gates with some good questions.
22:43That's so true. When I met Wayne Dyer, I told him you changed my life, and he goes, I doubt that.
22:48I bet you changed your life, but how did I help you? And that's exactly right, brother. So, hey, guys.
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23:51Rocketmoney.com/mylett. Brother. I want we were debating today, you guys.
23:56I'm gonna let you behind the scenes. Because we we really want to serve when we do something. You're like, we both like, hey, man.
24:02Our podcast together are special. And so we were debating today. Do we wanna let you behind the veil a little bit of coaching?
24:08And, by the way, some of these strategies you can use for yourself as well, bro. I gotta ask you this because we're gonna do a whole podcast on it, but let's go back and forth on this for a minute. I think, really, most people do come to us because they want more abundance.
24:21They want a more abundant relationship. They want more abundance financially, more abundance of contribution, more abundant memories. And this abundance thing in life is really an elusive thing.
24:32There's lots of schools of thought about abundance. And I agree with you. You it's just amazing.
24:37I just recorded a podcast earlier today that'll come out before this one, and I basically had two principles, challenging and chasing and competing. I so it's amazing.
24:47We did not talk about this at all. And I covered it three hours ago as I was recording a different show. So I totally agree with that.
24:53Same time, I do feel like abundance is something that you can tune into also. It's almost like a frequency or a way of being.
25:03Mhmm. Things begin to be easier to get than they are if you're not tuned in correctly.
25:10You could still probably get it, but like you said, by the time you get there, you're beat up and tired and have fractured relationships or your body or your spirituality to get it. And so do you do what what's your theory about it?
25:24Do you tune into abundance? Is that too theoretical? Like, how do you view an abundant life in getting one?
25:31Man, I'm probably a little bit old school, like, transcendentalist on that. Emerson would talk about how when you are able to connect to nature in the moment, when all of your life has had this confluence of flowing to the moment now, and here in in this moment is where the world is happening.
25:55And when you can be what he would reference is like your inner light, when you can be connected with your inner light or what they used to say, your inner divine, which I always love that language.
26:07When you are connected with your inner divine, your inner wisdom, your inner light, that true soul within you, when you are connected and seated there and and and you sense that, it brings you in the present moment where all the world is happening, and now you have access to the world's power and beauty is what he would talk about.
26:29Wow. So when you are at nature with yourself and the world, you have access to the entire world's power and beauty.
26:39And I always thought that was a profound I mean, it's a little transcendentalist, but for those Emerson fans out there, it's what gives you self reliance in his language and his famous essay is tuning into the nature of who you really are.
26:51Yes. And when you're in that place, it's almost like as another mentor and friend of mine, Paulo Coelho said, the whole world conspires.
26:58The whole universe conspires to see things happen for you because you're in the right place. If you're in the wrong place or you're faking it or, you know, you're conforming, you're you're you're out of tune with your nature and probably what the divine intended for you.
27:16So the path doesn't seem so open in front of you. It seems like a lot of blocks.
27:22Well, a lot of those blocks are sometimes put there to knock you back into where you were supposed to be. So sometimes our obstacles and blocks were actually given us Mhmm. So that we can, like, realign to what's true for ourselves, which is what I love you you shared earlier.
27:35Truth is that highest power. It's like, oh, when you're aligned with truth of who you are and what you believe you're meant to be or what you believe the divine is within you, there's a different level of access.
27:48And so I usually don't always say the word abundance, but to me, it's it's an access issue. Right? And a lot of people don't have abundance because they don't have access to a bank.
27:56Well, a lot of people don't have abundance because they don't have access to themselves.
27:59One of the best answers I've ever heard. That was an answer. I don't even know what to do after that.
28:04I'm gonna have to okay. Let me say this to you. Here's how much we agree.
28:08So I'm sitting here in my office, guys. I'm not in the studio today because I had a technical issue in the studio, so I'm recording it. If you're watching the YouTube, that's why it looks a little different in the background.
28:16And right next to everywhere I work in my office is this picture. It's an autographed picture from the lead actor from my favorite movie, Field of Dreams. Field of Dreams.
28:26Yeah. Field of Dreams is my favorite movie. And I look at this all day long, and he sent me a bunch of stuff.
28:31And it says, hey, Ed. Wanna have a catch? And, uh, but it's my favorite movie of all time.
28:36And the reason it's my favorite movie of all time is exactly, to some extent, what you just said. I really believe life is like a field of dreams. And the movie the whole principle of the movie is he says, if you build it, they will come.
28:52And in our lives, the first time we build it is in our dreams. It's in our mind. And when you're coaching somebody, part of your job is to turn that dream machine on when they tap into that state that you just talked about.
29:04And for so many of you listening to this today, you're just grinding through your life, one decision to the next, just trying to survive. And if you're not careful, you're gonna get to the end of your life, and you're gonna never realize that god put you on this field of dreams, and all you did was sit in the stands and clap for everybody else and worry and fret about how you're gonna get your hands on, you know, the next check-in your life.
29:28And this isn't about money. But the reason I love the movie so much is the very end of the movie, and I cry every time I watch it, he basically gets a chance to play catch with his dad at the end of the movie.
29:38Kevin Costner does. Right? And and it distills life down into what really matters to you.
29:44What are the peaceful, beautiful moments of life? And of all the dreams in the world, this movie breaks down to a simple thing of a father and a son just playing catch. And oftentimes in our lives, we're gonna figure out that it's the simple things that we really want and that we've overcomplicated and cluttered our lives with things we think we want that we really don't.
30:05And the message today to everybody is that life is this is not trying to be hokey. I'm really not. Okay?
30:10And I know there are problems in life and stresses, but you're not gonna get out of this alive. And so what are those moments of your life?
30:18I think life comes down to a handful of just beautiful moments. The more of these moments we get, the more the father and the son having a catch. And if we wake up and realize I'm living in a field of dreams, my life is a field of dreams, what would that look like?
30:32How would I want it to feel? And I really do believe if you build it in your mind, they will come. Build that vision for your company.
30:39Build it for what you want it to be. Become that person. Live in congruency.
30:43They will come. Build that dream of your the family you wanna have, and I believe she or he will come, and the children will come. Build that idea you've got that great concept, and the people you're gonna heal and help, they're going to come.
30:56Right? That thing you want, that home you want, build it in your mind, and it will come. It will be built.
31:01And so I just want you to have that thought in your mind of what your life is because so many people, I think, are living in a matrix that's not true in their life. And maybe you need a coach just to help you get clear
31:13again on why you were born and what your life's like. So, man, that idea of Emerson, brother, is gonna that's gonna stay with me into the evening tonight and really process that. So let me ask you one last thing since I wanna It was that Field of Dreams, and when you showed me the picture, I I know not everyone if you're listening on the podcast, go to his YouTube and watch this because he showed the picture of the star from Field of Dreams, the father, and that man, I I read it before you said it, and it just said on there, let's have a catch.
31:40I I almost cried a second because it's such a beautiful idea
31:44that, you know, life does break down these beautiful scenes,
31:47and so go live them out. This is one of those for me with you. Like, when I'm with you, that's the case.
31:53Guys, there's nothing better than a great moment with a friend where you're helping people. There's nothing like that in life, and you can have these moments. Maybe you need a coach to get it, though.
32:01Maybe you do. Let me ask you this last, brother. I wanna leave it to you last.
32:05You know what I'm also looking at? Just ironically, next to me, everyone on YouTube, is a picture of my dad.
32:10Mhmm. Though there's the field of dreams picture here of, hey.
32:15Ed, wanna have a catch where he catches with his dad, and then I got a picture of my dad. And these are the things that and by the way, looking at my dad is one of the things that helps me continue to live by my values. Mhmm.
32:26You need triggers and reminders of this is this is I'm trying to make him proud of me. I'm I'm trying to live by a certain standard. I'm trying to keep the promises I made to him and to me.
32:36And for all of you, the bigger reasons you can find to stay on that path or to change that path. I often believe most of the juice of life is just having big enough compelling reasons.
32:51You can figure out how. So any other thoughts on any of this, Brendan? This obviously has been a Yeah.
32:56I I wanna give the I I wanna give the gift that you gave them earlier about a little behind the scenes. I just wanna compliment Ed in two ways, and I want you to hear I want everyone to know this, because I know this is your audience listening to this.
33:07And before Ed and I even start hit record, he was coaching a friend of his who's in turmoil and was sending him a text.
33:16He said, hey, Brenda, hold on. I gotta help this person right here. And he was coaching that person, I'll just say, on how to not get engaged with something that would, you know, mess up with his character.
33:28You know, he telling him, basically, take the higher road here. And so Ed actually lives this. He actually he is coaching people all the time.
33:36He's doing it in his his life and his coaching and his one on one people. He just he really does it. And I wanna share another thing about life ending and and appreciating it.
33:47My biggest breakthrough this year happened at Ultra, and I know exactly where you were standing, Ed.
33:53It was the most un I've shared the story so many times to other groups since it happened with us. It was at our two ultras ago, you came out I remember where you stood on the stage.
34:05I remember because I was backstage, and it rarely ever happens, and you know this should be true. You rarely see a speaker on stage doing their thing, and then they stop, and they get in a moment of reflection.
34:19Mhmm. And you can tell they just changed the whole speech. And Ed was walking, and he's telling the stories of some so many of his amazing breakthroughs and achievements, and he talked about his island and his, you know, unbelievable successes and the journey and the struggles to get there.
34:35But then he's walking across stage and he just stops, and he stands I remember you were standing right by the speaker. I know where the speaker is. I know where the monitor is.
34:42You sit right there and he goes he just went quiet for a minute. And then you said to the audience, do you know?
34:49But I have to tell you that if this was my last day, I would have a regret.
35:00And one of the regrets is that, you know, I didn't have enough fun.
35:13And, man, I I think half that room burst into tears. Mhmm. I ran around from around the corner because I was like, oh, this is something magic is happening up there.
35:21Because very few people would ever be that vulnerable and that honest, let alone with a group of high achievers. It was the way that you said it.
35:29Mhmm. Thank you. And it hit me because it made you go and I wanted to bring this up.
35:34When you said abundance to me, was like, I gotta tell this story. Because a lot of people get abundance, but then they go, I wish I enjoyed it more.
35:41Yep. And that's what you coached me on that day. I was I mean, I that night, I was up all night thinking about I I told people about that story for, like, weeks now because I thought, you know what?
35:54Everyone's working so hard. Please enjoy that journey. Please have fun along the way.
36:01Because abundance will come because of your high agency. Abundance will come because you have vision. Abundance will come because you're a good leader.
36:06Abundance will come because you work so hard. That's who's listening to this. I know you get people who are striving, who are listening, who are growing.
36:13And I know sometimes along the way, you might acquire or achieve the things and you don't maybe it's not about enjoying them, it's about bringing flow and fun and joking around and just enjoyment to the full process.
36:30Because to me that's what the abundance is. The abundance isn't the get. The abundance was the day was alive because I brought and felt and sensed joy and enjoyment element.
36:42So so to me, abundance is that enjoyment of life. That's the get. Wow.
36:49Bro, every time we do this, something magic happens. And I appreciate you, uh, sharing that story because I do definitely know that moment, and it was definitely a moment of vulnerability. I try to always be vulnerable on stage, but that one was extra open.
37:04This has been a remarkable conversation, brother. I missed you, brother.
37:08I missed you, and I love you. And I hope everybody enjoyed this today. And I love you, man.
37:14I I just love you, and thank you for serving at such a high level today. And by the way, right now, I think you're the dude I play catch with, and I mean that. That's what we did today back and forth, and I loved it.
37:23I loved it very much. This is incredible. Thank you for having me again.
37:26I appreciate you, brother. Alright. Love you all.
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