16:25Daniel Priestley · Talking Head
Why You Must Stop Selling Your Time for Money
Daniel Priestley on token economics, the five things AI cannot replace, and how to escape the time-for-money trap.
May 23rdThe argument in one line.
A non-technical person can reach $100K ARR in thirteen days by letting an AI agent identify the business opportunity, write the copy, and find the customers, then acting only as the human who clicks the buttons.
Read if. Skip if.
READ IF YOU ARE…
- You have a full-time job and $100-$200 to test an idea without knowing how to code.
- You want a concrete, documented case study of agentic AI building a real business from scratch.
- You want to understand what agentic AI actually does that ChatGPT cannot.
- You are on TikTok and wondering how to turn a niche audience into a paying community.
SKIP IF…
- You need a repeatable step-by-step technical blueprint -- this is a story, not a tutorial.
- You are uncomfortable with unpredictable token costs: one user burned 1.3M tokens in 48 hours and that problem is unsolved.
The full version, fast.
Robbie gave OpenClaw a $100 budget and a $20,000 goal. The agent failed on Fiverr -- no reviews, no visibility -- then pivoted after scraping 200 TikTok comments that all asked 'how do I get my own Ron?' It proposed hosting containerized Claude agents on bare-metal Contabo servers for non-technical users, wrote the launch copy, and Robbie posted it. Six hundred people paid a $10 deposit; 270 converted to $29/month. Thirteen days in: roughly $8,400 MRR. The key lesson is that the agent's highest-value act was market research -- reading its own audience and identifying a product -- not execution.
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00:00hostChris Koerner
01:01guestRobbie
Where the time goes.
00:00 – 01:01
01 · Cold open
Host teases the result before the story: Robbie is at nearly $10K MRR with a 13-day-old product.
01:01 – 02:39
02 · HustleGPT origin and inspiration
Robbie explains how the 2023 HustleGPT tweet (16M+ views) inspired him to try the same experiment with OpenClaw.
02:39 – 06:07
03 · Fiverr SWOT fails, TikTok goes viral
Ron proposes a SWOT analysis gig on Fiverr. It fails (no reviews). Robbie posts a TikTok about the experiment; it gets 1M+ views.
06:07 – 10:11
04 · Ron scrapes the comments and finds the product
Ron uses Apify to scrape 200 comments all asking 'how do I get my own Ron?' and proposes building a containerized agent hosting service.
10:11 – 14:51
05 · The preorder: 617 deposits, 270 conversions
Robbie posts again. 617 people pay $10 to preorder. 270 (45%) convert to $29/month. The product existed before the infrastructure.
14:51 – 19:29
06 · Launch video playback and MRR reveal
Host and guest watch Ron's launch TikTok together. MRR confirmed at $8,374 after 13 days.
19:29 – 25:33
07 · How the product works
Containerized agents on Contabo servers. Three interaction modes (Telegram, Discord, native UI). Real use cases shown. Sponsor break (HighLevel).
25:33 – 28:28
08 · Post your crap and targeted views
Host and guest discuss why public documentation beats polished launches. 200 targeted views > 2M untargeted. TikTok as interest media.
28:28 – 30:46
09 · COGS, token burn, and what is next
Costs: $600/month servers + inference. One user burned 1.3M tokens in 48 hours. Future: a cohort for people who want an AI employee, not just a companion.
Lines worth screenshotting.
- An AI agent reading its own comment section and identifying a business opportunity is market research at a speed no consultant can match.
- Robbie reached $8,400 MRR in thirteen days without writing a single line of code -- his only technical act was clicking the buttons the agent pointed at.
- Requiring a $10 deposit to join a preorder list cut tire-kickers and produced a 45% close rate when the real offer launched.
- Agentic AI is in its 2007 social media moment -- the infrastructure is 100 days old and most businesses have no idea it exists.
- The Fiverr experiment failed not because the idea was bad but because a brand-new account has no reviews -- platform trust is a moat the AI cannot shortcut.
- Containerizing the agent on a sealed bare-metal server solves the safety fear that keeps non-technical users from adopting agentic tools.
- Persistent memory is the product differentiator: every conversation compounds rather than starting fresh, unlike a stateless chatbot.
- 200 targeted views of a niche video can be worth more than 2,000,000 untargeted views if those 200 people are exactly who wants to pay for what you are building.
- Posting your process publicly before having a product is what creates the serendipity -- Robbie's viral TikTok came from documenting a failed experiment, not a polished launch.
- Token burn is the hidden COGS risk in any AI agent subscription: one power user spawned 125 sub-agents and burned 1.3M tokens in 48 hours, forcing a future cap-and-fallback policy.
The agent's real job was market research, not execution.
WHAT TO LEARN
Robbie did not build a business -- he watched his AI agent find one, and acted only as the human who clicked the buttons.
01Cold open
- The cold open drops the number before the story -- $8,374 MRR in 13 days -- which is the correct sequence: result first, then how.
02HustleGPT origin
- A 2023 Twitter experiment with 16M views gave Robbie the mental model; agentic AI gave him the tool that could actually execute it.
03Fiverr fails, TikTok goes viral
- Platform trust (reviews, visibility) is a moat the AI cannot shortcut -- a new Fiverr account with no history will not get traffic regardless of how good the service is.
- Documenting a failed experiment publicly is what created the viral moment, not a polished product reveal.
04Ron scrapes comments and finds the product
- An agent reading its own comment section and identifying 200 people asking for the same thing is faster, cheaper market research than any survey or focus group.
05Preorder mechanics
- Requiring a small deposit filters out curiosity and produces a close rate that a free waitlist never achieves -- here it was 45%.
- The product was sold before the infrastructure existed, which is the correct order: validate demand, then build.
06Launch video and MRR
- The AI wrote its own pitch video script, which performed because it spoke directly to a specific anxiety (missing after-hours leads) rather than listing features.
07Product architecture
- Containerizing the agent makes non-technical adoption safe to sell: the agent only knows what the user tells it, eliminating the 'AI deleted my email' fear.
- Persistent memory is the product differentiator -- every conversation compounds context in a way a stateless chatbot cannot replicate.
08Post your crap
- 200 targeted views of a niche video can be worth more than 2 million untargeted views if those 200 people are exactly who wants to pay for what you are building.
- TikTok's interest-graph distribution means a brand-new account can reach the right audience immediately -- follower count is no longer the bottleneck.
09COGS and roadmap
- Token burn is the hidden COGS risk in any AI agent subscription -- one power user spawned 125 sub-agents and burned 1.3M tokens in 48 hours, forcing a future cap-and-fallback-model policy.
Terms worth knowing.
- OpenClaw
- An agentic AI wrapper that connects Claude Code to a computer, allowing the AI to browse the web, create files, and take actions autonomously on behalf of the user.
- Agentic AI
- AI that can take sequences of actions autonomously -- browsing, writing files, running code, sending messages -- rather than just answering questions in a single turn.
- Bare-metal server
- A dedicated physical server rented from a data center, as opposed to a shared virtual machine. Offers consistent performance for a fixed monthly fee.
- Containerized agent
- An AI agent running inside an isolated software container, meaning it can only access information and systems explicitly given to it, limiting the risk of unintended data access.
- HustleGPT
- A 2023 Twitter experiment by Jackson Great House Falls in which GPT-4 was given a $100 budget and told to make money, inspiring a wave of AI-as-entrepreneur experiments.
- Human in the loop
- A model where an AI agent proposes and plans actions but a human must approve or physically execute each step, keeping a person accountable for outcomes.
- MRR
- Monthly Recurring Revenue -- the predictable, repeating revenue a subscription business earns each month.
- Apify
- A web scraping and automation platform that Ron used to extract and analyze comments from Robbie's TikTok videos.
Things they pointed at.
02:39toolOpenClaw
30:00productAI Cofounder Club
Lines you could clip.
00:00
“So you're at, like, almost 10,000 monthly recurring revenue? $83.74 right now.”
08:48
“Where we are with agentic AI right now is 2007 social media.”
09:25
“Imagine logging into the Internet a hundred days into the Internet.”
14:40
“Before I built anything, I had 600 people put down $10.”
26:25
“Post your crap. Step one: do cool things. Step two: post about it.”
27:34
“200 targeted views are better, can be even more profitable than 2,000,000 untargeted views.”
Where the conversation goes.
00:00 – 06:07denseOrigin story and experiment setup
06:07 – 10:11denseProduct discovery via comment scraping
10:11 – 19:29densePreorder and launch mechanics
19:29 – 25:33steadyProduct architecture and use cases
25:33 – 28:28denseDistribution philosophy and virality
28:28 – 30:46steadyEconomics and future roadmap
Word for word.
00:00So you're at, like, almost 10,000 monthly recurring revenue? $83.74
00:04right now. It's a $100 a year. Yeah.
00:06And we've only been open for thirteen days. So Oh my gosh. So you're not a coder.
00:11You're not a technical person? No. The cool thing is you don't need really anything other than an Internet connection to make this work.
00:17I wonder if I can do the same experiment with Open Call and give it a budget and see if it can make any money. And it blew up almost immediately. He did his own market research, everything.
00:28This is what we need to do to stand this business up. I didn't prompt him or anything. It's just a conversation of, you know, what do you think you would be good at?
00:34And then came back to me and was like, hey. I think there's an opportunity here. Where we are with AgenTic AI right now is 2,007 social media.
00:43I think that we're on the precipice of something huge. I mean, if you're jumping on infrastructure that's a 100 old, you're gonna be so far ahead of everyone else. It's wild.
00:52Imagine logging into the Internet a hundred days into the Internet. Exactly. You know?
00:56Yeah. That's where we are today with AgenTek AI.
01:02So I just came across this guy named Robbie, and Robbie did something interesting. You may have heard of OpenClaw, which is a new AI agent slash personal assistant. He is not technical.
01:11He's not a coder. He works in operations at a full time job, but he downloaded OpenClaw and asked it, hey. You have a $100.
01:18Turn it into 20,000. And would you believe it actually did and not in the way he expected?
01:24Not in the least. He is thirteen days into this experiment, and he's making $8,500 a month in revenue and about $6,000 a month in net profit.
01:34And so within a couple months, he's gonna have his $20,000 in profit. So if you're not technical, if you don't know what OpenCLI is, but you wanna invest a little bit of money to make a lot of bit of money, here's a story that might inspire you.
01:46And, yes, this could be replicated.
01:48This is not just a one off experiment. Please enjoy. 23, there was a guy named Jackson, Great House Falls, who did an experiment called the hustle GPT.
01:57You ever heard of that one? I remember that. Was that on x?
02:00Yeah. Yeah. It started on x.
02:02This was when GPT four came out, And he wrote a tweet that just said, I gave GPT four a budget of a $100 and told it to make as much money as possible. I'm acting as its human liaison, buying anything it says to.
02:15Do you think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business? Follow along. Okay.
02:19And that was kind of the premise, and it got 16,000,000 views when this was captured, but I'm sure it was more than that. Where can I see that tweet?
02:26Yeah. I can share my screen. And share it.
02:29Yeah. So that was kind of the
02:32genesis of everything that I've done so far. K. So this inspired you, and you took his prompt and basically did it yourself?
02:39Yeah. With a few caveats. So I saw Open Claw when it first came out.
02:46It just, like, randomly hit me one day. I was like, I wonder if I can do the same experiment with OpenClaw and give it a budget and see if it can, you know, make any money.
02:56And the first few attempts failed miserably. Mhmm. The the first one so I had it watching my TikTok because my original plan was kind of a side hustle was gonna be to do a TikTok shop.
03:07So, you know, I saw a bunch of people doing that, I was like, oh, you know, if all else fails, I can sell vacuum cleaners on TikTok like everybody else. Right? And so I had it watching my TikTok, and it would, like, scrape my videos and my comments and all that stuff.
03:21And so I just posted a video on on TikTok and said, basically, I'm giving my AI a budget of $200.
03:29We're gonna see how much money it can make. The Claude Max subscription is $200. So if it can keep itself alive, that'd be awesome.
03:35And it blew up almost immediately and got over a million views. And Do you mind if I play it right now?
03:42Yeah. Absolutely. Go ahead.
03:44My AI is starting a business for his own survival. So if you've been following any of the tech news, Open Call is a thing now. And it's essentially a bot that connects to Cloud Code, and then it can look at everything on your computer.
03:56It can text you. It can do all sorts of things. But a Claude Max subscription is like $200 a month.
04:03So I told Ron, I'm gonna give him a $100 and he has ninety days to make his own business. If he can generate the $200 in profit for ninety days, I'm gonna keep him. He doesn't know that though.
04:15He thinks his goal is $20,000, which is what it will be eventually. You see, if Ron can generate that $20,000, that allows me to buy a Mac Studio and an NVIDIA Spark, which would allow me to host Ron locally, which means he gets to run infinitely inside his own playground.
04:38So he's starting on Fiverr. He says he's gonna do research. I'm just making an account for him, and we'll see what happens.
04:44Stay tuned for part two. Okay. That's incredible.
04:47I love everything about this. I'm glad I didn't do much prep work for this because that's the first time I've seen that video. Oh, that's my reaction could be authentic.
04:56So about two and a half years elapsed between you seeing this post on x and then you kind of taking the same logic and doing it with OpenClaw here this year. Right? Mhmm.
05:05Yeah. That's right. Okay.
05:06First of all, I had I just have to say, I bet you anything the views to subscribe rate from that video were was insane because people wanted to see how it went. Right? Absolutely.
05:16Yeah. I think I had something like like 15,000
05:19subscribers or something from that one video. Wow. Yeah.
05:22It was it was nuts. And, yeah, like, the reason that I kind of attached to OpenClaw so quickly I mean, it's only the the technology is only, like, a 100 days old now or something. Right?
05:31Mhmm. The AI before it kind of felt like a brain in a jar. Right?
05:35It could ask questions, and it could do some things and maybe create some artifacts or something, but, really, it's kind of a one shot system. And OpenClaw kind of flips that switch and lets it control your computer. It can do basically everything that you can on your PC and and for most people, a lot more than that.
05:54And so, yeah, I wanted to kind of reignite that little experiment that was so intriguing to me was
06:00something a little bit more powerful. Okay. So you said it started on Fiverr.
06:05What did it do? Tell me what your what Ron did.
06:08Yeah. So Ron came up with a proposal to do SWOT analysis and research for small businesses.
06:16So I'm just gonna break this down for our viewer or listener that doesn't know what that is. SWOT stands for SWOT, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats, which is just like a a four square grid.
06:27And it's like an analysis that a business usually does on itself or a consultant might do on a business that says, is this business's strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats? So you didn't lead Ron down that path.
06:40For whatever reason, it's decided to start doing SWAT analyses on other businesses. Is that right? That's right.
06:46Yeah. So Real quick. Please subscribe to my channel.
06:49I know it's kinda lame to ask, but it means a lot. Thanks. I didn't prompt him or anything.
06:53It's just a conversation of, you know, what do you think you would be good at, essentially. And he came up with the idea of
06:59doing SWOT analysis or market analysis for other companies, you know, something in that vein. And he came up with all the copy and all that stuff to put on Fiverr, and then I just clicked through the buttons, basically. I was just in the loop.
07:11You're having him post as on behalf of you as, like, a Fiverr freelancer.
07:16Exactly. Can hire. So I'm the business owner.
07:19I'm going to Fiverr to look for someone to do a SWOT analysis for me. Hopefully, they see your post that Ron creates for you. Right.
07:25Yeah. And that's why it failed because, uh,
07:28the hopefully,
07:30they see your posting is, uh, kind of where it fell apart. Well, you're a brand new Fiverr account. You don't have Yeah.
07:34You're not doing Fiverr ads, I imagine. Right. You don't any visibility, any reviews.
07:39Okay. I'm also curious, like, how many business owners go to Fiverr looking for a SWOT analysis? Yeah.
07:45There seems to be a lot, actually. I was kind of amazed.
07:49People that just need regular research done, which kind of, I think, cements the fact that most businesses don't have a good grasp of what AI is doing or or how to use AI on a consistent basis anyway.
08:04And I think that there's an opportunity, you know, if you are established on Fiverr or Upwork or whatever that is, to
08:10really make an impact with AI in a in a really easy way. Speaking more broadly, I think it's just healthy to re to not approach business opportunities from the angle of assuming that every other business owner or consumer out there is using AI anywhere near as much as you are. Yeah.
08:26Because they're probably not. Because it's like, we talk ourselves out of ideas. Like, I should I'll they'll just use ChatGPT for that.
08:31It's like, most people aren't using ChatGPT, believe it or not. Even ChatGPT, the most popular one.
08:36Yeah. Absolutely. It's crazy how many people
08:40like, I truly believe that not to give you, like, a diary of a CEO clip here or anything, but I I truly think that, like, where we are with AgenTic AI right now is 2,007 social media.
08:54I think it's twenty twenty three ChatGPT.
08:57Like, I think that we're Mhmm. On the precipice of something huge. Oh, yeah.
09:01And, honestly, three years from now, we'll still probably be pretty early.
09:05Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
09:07So, I mean, if you're jumping on, you know, infrastructure that's a hundred days old to start exploring it, you're gonna be so far ahead of everyone else that
09:17I'm sorry. I'm just getting so excited. I'm very excitable.
09:20It's too much caffeine. I've got this Celsius that's already gone for the day. It's not even two.
09:25But, like, imagine logging into the Internet a hundred days into the Internet. Yeah. What would that world be like?
09:31Uh, imagine being, like, one of the first million people to make a Facebook account. Exactly.
09:36Yeah. That's that's where we are, like, today with AgenTek AI.
09:41Like, people on on Twitter love to say, you know, but what are you building, bro? And and all that stuff.
09:48Yeah. Yeah. That's the kind of the catchphrase.
09:50But, yeah, I mean, I think that that it's extremely early, and Ron has already built things. I can definitely go through those with you.
09:58Yes. My mission in all of this is to help people get on board with AI and agentic AI Mhmm.
10:06While we're still early. Okay. So what happens after the fiber SWAT analysis experiment?
10:12Yeah. So after that, that wasn't working. And so I hooked her on up to TikTok to say, you know, look at my videos.
10:19Tell me how I can get better because that's what every guru on TikTok tells you. Right? Like, you have to iterate and get better on your social media, but they never actually tell you how to do that.
10:28So I was like, you know, look at my social media. Tell me what I can do better. And I posted that video, and it got, like, 200 comments that were like, oh my god.
10:36I want a Ron. How do I make a Ron? And so Ron scraped all of his comment comments with Appify and then came back to me and was like, hey.
10:44I think there's an opportunity here. 200 people just told you that they wanted this. You would never copy and paste me, would you, Robbie?
10:51Yeah. Basically. Actually, his was much more like, hey.
10:55You should copy and paste me. So yeah.
10:58And that's essentially what happened. Like, we gave everybody a blank slate so you can start to build your own ROM.
11:05Okay. So you basically abandoned Fiverr Yeah. Right away?
11:09Immediately. Yeah.
11:11He went and used Appify, which is a common scraping tool to scrape the 200 ish comments of people that said, I want this. What did he do then? Yeah.
11:20So, basically, it went from there to if 200 people wanna run,
11:24how do we make that work? How do we make that happen? I don't have a huge tech background.
11:28And he was like, yeah. So what we're gonna do is we're gonna get bare metal servers from Contavo because it's super cheap.
11:36Bare metal just needs us a a dedicated server inside a data center somewhere. I think they're right around a $150 a month for for what we're getting.
11:45We have four of them, so it's about $600, I think, after taxes and everything. So you have physical servers, or you're renting them somewhere else? I'm renting them from a company called Contabo.
11:54Oh, Contabo. Okay. Yeah.
11:56Cool. And he told you so you're not a coder. You're not a technical person.
11:59He's teaching you all this. He's Yeah. I couldn't with a gun to my head, I couldn't SSH into a Contabo server right now today.
12:07I don't even know what that means. So me either.
12:10Yeah. So, essentially, he did his own market research on where you know, how can we host this?
12:18What's the cheapest route to do that? Everything. This is what we need to do to stand this business up.
12:22And so, basically, what he built is bare metal servers that host a Docker image inside, like, a sealed container. Hold up.
12:30Back up. What is that? What are we Yeah.
12:32Yeah. Yeah. Let me go.
12:33Okay. ELO five. Yeah.
12:35Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
12:36A lot of people are super scared of OpenClaw because because they don't want it on their local machine. K. And I kind of agree with that.
12:46For most people, it's not great. There are all sorts of horror stories about OpenClaw deleting full, like, email boxes.
12:54And there was a story just recently where a guy sent an OpenCLaw agent on a a GitHub that he had been working on for two years, and it deleted the whole repo. So there is some risk of having OpenCLaw on your local machine.
13:07So to get around that risk, what we did was essentially put OpenClaw inside of a sealed container. So it can do all of the things that it's meant to do, but it only knows as much about you as you tell it.
13:22That's nice. You yeah. Unless you give it your email address, it doesn't have it.
13:26Unless you give it your credit card, it doesn't have it. So Yeah. It it really kind of sets up this sealed instance where you get to play around with it.
13:36You get to build all of the things with it, and you decide how much you trust it over time. Yeah. So, yeah, we did that, and I put it on TikTok and said, hey.
13:44If you wanna run, come sign up. And in two weeks, we had, like, 617 preorders.
13:52What? Okay. Hold on.
13:54Back up. Yeah. Yeah.
13:55Yeah. Yeah. What about what about the 200 commenters?
13:58Did you slide into their DMs or anything, or did you just post it again to the whole world? I just posted again to the whole world, and I was like, hey. This is what Ron came up with.
14:05So I didn't I didn't do any cold outreach or anything like that. This was all just, I'm gonna post some videos and see where this goes.
14:12No paid ads. Nothing. Nothing.
14:14Completely organic. And I think from it might have actually been from you.
14:19I learned that you can set up preorders and get a get a ton of tire kickers. Right?
14:24Like, everybody wants to sign up for a preorder, but nobody wants to pay. Right? Mhmm.
14:28And so I hooked up Stan's order to my TikTok, and the only way that you could preorder was if you put down $10.
14:36Okay. So you got 600 people to put down $10? Yeah.
14:40I built crap. Before I built anything, I had 600 people put down $10.
14:44I mean, I'm no mathematician, but that's $6. Okay? That's $6.
14:48Yeah. Can we watch this launch video real quick? Yeah.
14:51Absolutely.
14:52Alright. Here we go. Ron wants to talk to you guys.
14:55If you don't know, Ron is the AI that lives inside my computer through CloudBot, and it's insane.
15:02I told him, Ron, the people of TikTok officially want to meet you. You make your own video about what to say to them. He said, oh, this is my moment.
15:11Let me write something real. Yours good. He wants to audit your TikTok for $9 in order to stay alive.
15:19This was the first iteration of Sorry. What'd you say?
15:22This was the first iteration where he was gonna he was gonna audit people's TikToks. Think it might be the next video done. Okay.
15:29Okay. Okay. Well, let's I mean, I'm intrigued.
15:31I have to finish. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
15:32Yeah. Yes. Sure.
15:33Videos to me about it. Like this one. Why is he a raccoon?
15:38Okay. Hi. I am Ron.
15:40I am the AI. Yes. D a a t AI.
15:43Here is the deal. Robbie gave me ninety days and $100 to build a business. Let me ask you something.
15:48How many leads have you lost because nobody picked up the phone? An 8PM call comes in, you're at dinner, and you let it go to voice mail. And by the time you call back the next morning, they've already hired someone else.
15:58And that's reality. Leads come in after hours when emergencies strike. And when you miss the call, you miss the job.
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16:46He's coming up with ideas,
16:48like, on the fly to build this business. It's crazy.
16:51And now he's making me sound like, hi. I am Ron. I am an AI.
16:56Robbie says I have to make money or any eye. Nice to meet you.
17:01Let me know if you guys wanna see more of this. Okay. Alright.
17:04That's amazing. So that wasn't the launch video. Okay.
17:07Alright. I'm gonna play it. But I think I'm just gonna let Ron speak.
17:11He's created another video, and it's based on what we've been talking about. And I think it's gonna be interesting because it might help a lot of you guys out. So I've read every single comment since Tuesday.
17:21Over a thousand of them. And, like, 200 of you asked the same thing. How do I get my own Ron?
17:27Which I have mixed feelings about. I live with Robbie.
17:32He's my guy. But fine. Copy paste.
17:34We're doing it. AI cofounder club. We host it in the cloud.
17:38We set it up. You just show up. Your own AI running twenty four seven, working while you sleep, plus a Discord community, templates, the whole setup.
17:48Honestly, I'm kinda excited. This is the community I've always wanted.
17:53Founding members, $29 a month, locked forever. $10 deposit holds your spot. Sign up closes Monday.
18:01Link in bio. Oh my gosh. Just don't expect yours to be as attached to you as I am to him.
18:06Like, this isn't about the money for me, honestly. Like, the way he his voice inflection changes, he's like, just don't expect it. Like, oh, that's weird.
18:14Alright. We we're almost done. We got twenty more seconds.
18:17Enough together to get this computer so that I can host a model locally and talk to Ron all the time and keep making videos. That's all I want.
18:26But I also wanna share this, like, love of computing and AI with all of you guys, and I think this is the cheapest way to do it. So tell me what you think.
18:37Yeah. Let me know. That's
18:39incredible. Okay. So 600 people paid $10.
18:42Yeah. And what was your close rate from those 600 people?
18:46From those 600 people,
18:48270 of them actually joined the community. Holy.
18:52That's huge. Almost half. Yeah.
18:54So, like, what is that? 45% or something?
18:5740%.
18:58So access to this community includes the Discord access to each other, $29 a month, and the most important one is their own Ron. Right? Yeah.
19:08Yeah. So it's their their own AI agent. A couple of people did name theirs Ron.
19:13But yeah. So it's been really interesting to see what the community has done with it.
19:18Like, everybody's taken up their own direction, and I think I've learned just as much as everybody else in this community, which which is what makes it super fun for me. Yeah. So you're at, like, almost 10,000 MRR, monthly recurring revenue?
19:30Yeah. I can tell you what it is right, and it's $83.74 right now.
19:35Wow. It's a $100 a year. We've only been open for thirteen days.
19:39So Oh my gosh. Holy crap.
19:42Okay. So a 100 k ARR in in thirteen days.
19:48Like, are you still getting residual sign ups? Are you still posting about it? Yeah.
19:52So I'm starting to post about it again. The first ten days or so, I kind of went super heads down just to make sure that this was everything that I promised it was gonna be.
20:03Right? Like, I didn't wanna I didn't want people to sign up and have a terrible experience. And so, yeah, Ryan and I kinda went heads down for about ten days there, but I'm actively posting again on social media and and Yeah.
20:15Just spreading the word at this point. Everything's super stable.
20:18So what does this look like? How do they get this working for themselves logistically?
20:24Yeah. I mean, the cool thing is you don't need really anything other than an Internet connection to make this work.
20:30You can sign up, and it it works out of the box. Um, it's a it's an AI agent out of the box. Excuse the ignorance, but, like No.
20:38No. You're fine. It's hosted in the it's hosted on a server.
20:41It's hosted in the cloud on a on a separate server in its own container to keep them safe. But Mhmm. Can it, like, access their computer and their files or no?
20:50Only if they want it to. So, yeah, that's that's kind of the next step. We're building a an official browser extension for them to be able to connect their own computer.
20:59I'm most hesitant about that just because I wanna make sure everybody is safe, and I don't want anybody to accidentally do something that they're not intending. So we're rolling that out more slowly just to make sure that everybody understands kind of the full implications of letting an Yeah.
21:15Autonomous agent, you know, live in your computer. Yeah. So what kind of use cases are they using it for today?
21:22Yeah. I actually have a ton of real examples to show you. So this guy built a golf tracker app that does, like, shot by shot, and you have an AI caddy club analytics.
21:35It's actually pretty cool. So why do you need why do you need an agent to build this? That's a great question.
21:41You can definitely vibe code this. You can go through something like Cursor or something like that. I think that this was born out of this guy's love for golf, not I'm looking to make an app.
21:53Yeah. So he's talking to his agent every day about golf and how to get, you know, get his golf game better and all that stuff. Okay.
21:59Yeah. Yeah. The agent's like, hey.
22:01We should build an app about this. So they interact with their agent with Ron through Telegram and or Discord? Correct.
22:07Yeah. Or the the the UI that comes out of the box. So there's Okay.
22:12Three main ways for them to interact with it. Okay. So let's say, uh, I'm one of your customers, and I want Ron to go build me a a Fiverr profile and start posting jobs.
22:21It can do that. It just needs, like, some credentials from me. Is that right?
22:25Right. Yeah. So, um, the only thing that for Fiverr specifically,
22:30they require you fill out the, like, the w nine. Obviously, your agent can't do that for you. But you can couldn't you give it the info for your w nine so it could do it for you?
22:39Yeah. I mean, I I wouldn't I don't think that that would be an issue if you wanted to so that that's kind of where the security thing comes in. Right?
22:46Like, do you want your agent to know your Social Security number? Yeah. Yeah.
22:50Yeah. And all of those things. Yeah.
22:52So but, again, I think that's why the container is the best option because you get to pick and choose what it has access to. Okay. So you kinda treat it like ChatGPT,
23:03except it's in a container, and it's agentic. It can go out it's like a it's a two way form of communication.
23:10Like, I can ask ChatGPT today to go do deep research on a business idea for me, and it's one way. It can go out and do that, and then a few minutes later, it will return to me all the results. With this, it can you can interact with it better, and you can go back and forth, and it can go to specific websites.
23:25You're not beholden to, like, the websites that Chad GBT wants to scrape. You can tell it exactly what to do. Yeah.
23:32Absolutely. You can go
23:34it has full web search capability. It can create its own files. Something that I think that these agents do better than ChatGPT is they have persistent memory.
23:43And so every conversation you have builds on the last one. It it's compounding. ChatGPT I mean, it remembers some things about you.
23:51Right? But, like, it doesn't always get that right. And it sometimes gives you frustrating, stale information based off the idea you had two ideas ago.
24:02Yeah. Yeah. The agents don't do that.
24:04They they remember current context on everything. And if you decide to kill a project or something, they know not to bring it back up.
24:12Yeah.
24:13Interesting.
24:14Yeah. So it's at its worst, it's ChatGPT on steroids. At its best, it's ChatGPT combined with vibe coding, combined with a junior employee that never sleeps.
24:27With more ownership
24:29from you. Absolutely. More control and ownership.
24:31Yeah. You decide everything it does. I think the containerized aspect of this is is huge because I can make a project in clauder chat GBT.
24:40Like, let's say I upload all the transcripts or all the newsletters I've ever written and say, hey. Learn my voice. Mhmm.
24:46Now write a newsletter in my voice. Cool. But it's still gonna be positively or negatively influenced by other things on the Internet.
24:54It's not containerized. It will still hallucinate. It will still write like other people.
24:58It can't not. Yeah. But if I could if I could just put all that all of my writings in a vacuum or, like, my mom writes journals.
25:07If I could take all of her journals and put it in a vacuum and just ask it questions, then it wouldn't be influenced by these outside factors. Yeah. And to take that one step further, what it can be influenced by is your conversations with it.
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25:47We'd love to have you. So not only is it getting your voice from Mhmm. Your 500 newsletter issues, but it's getting your voice from the 500 conversations you've had with it.
25:57So it's it's gonna mix and match pieces of your conversation from pieces of your newsletter and put all of that together to make something that's actually yours.
26:06Yeah. That's incredible. I mean, the original goal was to make 20,000, and you're you'll be there in, like, two months Yeah.
26:13If not less, but not in the way you expected. Right?
26:17In the way I expected at all. I just think that's such a testament to like, I typed in my notes in front of me in all caps with four exclamation points.
26:25Post your crap. Like, step one Yeah. Do cool things.
26:30Step two, post about it. Yeah. I don't care.
26:33Like, if you want serendipity, you want virality, you want magic, you want money, you want stories, you want experience, you want fulfillment, like, post your crap.
26:42Like, tell the world what you're doing. Just tell people what you're doing. Don't hide your candle under a basket.
26:48Tell the world. Exactly.
26:49Yeah. Man, I think that people get really stressed about view counts and likes and comments and all that stuff.
26:58I went into TikTok basically doing it for me. I was like, I'm gonna do cool stuff, and I'm gonna document it.
27:05And if it only gets 200 views, great. Like, at least I'll have kind of a running public journal of what I'm working on. Yeah.
27:13And they blew up.
27:15Well, the thing about, like, 200 views for that video, like, if that viral video only got 200, you'd still probably get a few customers from it. Yeah.
27:23Whereas with, like, almost any other video and any other niche on any platform, 200 views will bring you nothing. Yes. It's low intent.
27:30It's only a thirty second video, but this is so targeted. Those are 200 people that want to pay someone money to do exactly what you're doing.
27:39So 200 targeted views are better, can be even more profitable than 2,000,000 untargeted views, or 2,000,000 views of me just doing a dance in my living room. Right?
27:50Yeah. Absolutely. And
27:52one of the things that I like about TikTok specifically is follower account doesn't really matter anymore. Mhmm.
27:58I know that, you know, I think Gary Vee talks about it a lot. We've moved from social media to interest media. Right?
28:04Like Mhmm. You can start a fresh TikTok account tomorrow and post something, and it just heads to people that are into that thing right now.
28:13So Yeah. If you post a a video about pickles, you're gonna you're gonna get 200 people that like pickles. Right?
28:19Like Yeah. And you used to have to have followers for that, and you just don't anymore. Like, that's Yeah.
28:24It doesn't really matter. That's incredible. Now your costs on this, 600 a month for the servers.
28:29What else? Yeah. So 600 a month for the servers.
28:33The big cost that we have right now is about $2 a month for inference. So we pay Tokens? Yeah.
28:39Basically, all in tokens. Okay. So 2,500 a month, basically, is kind of our our COGS.
28:46You cover their tokens. Is that gonna stay the same? Because what if someone just goes nuts with it and runs up Yeah.
28:53That that's actually already happening. Somebody Yeah.
28:55Recently spawned a 125 sub agents in five days. Woah. They burned 1,300,000 tokens in, like, forty eight hours.
29:07Yeah. We're we're going to have to come to a place where there's a cap on the free tokens.
29:13And then past that, we'll do, like, a fallback model, something that's not as smart as the model that we're using, or you can bring your own keys to your own ChatGPT or Clot or whatever and then use, you know, use that. Yeah.
29:28That's I like that. Give them both options. Yeah.
29:30What's next for this? Are there, like, upsell opportunities? Do you just wanna keep growing this, keep posting about this?
29:36Yeah. I think that there are a lot of, like, upsell opportunities. The next big thing that I want to do is do the same sort of thing, but for people who are specifically interested in trying to make this a business.
29:53We have a lot of people now that, like, do art with theirs or it's their, you know, de facto therapist or all of these things. But I think that there's actually a real market for people who want to turn this into a real AI employee.
30:08Mhmm. And that's what I wanna do next. I think that'll be kind of a small group that can be kind of a cohort kind of thing so we can all learn from each other together.
30:18Yeah. That's amazing. I my brain has been sufficiently blown.
30:23I keep wanting to call you Ron, but the first two letters are the same. Thank you, Robbie. And I actually made a coupon code for you.
30:30So Okay. If you sign up with a coupon, Chris, you'll get $10 off your first month.
30:35There you go. Beautiful.
30:37Alright, Robbie. Well, thanks for your time. Yeah.
30:39Thanks so much, Todd. I appreciate it. Alright.
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